[s-cars] comments appreciated

[John Karasaki]

I echo Scott's comments, except mine was in a slightly modified evo x. I had goosebumps for a couple weeks later whenever I told the story or even just thought about my time behind the wheel of that car earlier this summer. For reference, my previous goosebump car was a 993tt, my track car is a 99 spec miata, and my daily is a 300 hp legacy gt.

Alas it was $32k and just too, too boy racer looking for me. Everyone but my racer/club friends would hate me for driving that car.

Regarding the 968, always loved and wanted one, just like a 951. Beyond being the most expensive track car you could ever buy to maintain (I'm leaving exotics out), besides the full on race versions that are tube frame based, they don't handle as well as my miata. You can lay down some much faster lap times, nut that's due to the 2x or better straight line speed of the pcar.

Put a built turbo motor in a spec miata and nothing can touch it.

I know you said no m cars; this isn't an m. A pro 3 car (BMW), might be exactly what your looking for. Put a turbo in it and see my turbo sm comment,

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On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

> 
> The bigger problem Lee, is that all the cars you speak to are two effectively dedicated 2 seaters.  Reminds me of the old A1 Scirocco C&D article describing the rear seats...  You will only put your soon to be ex-friends back there.
> 
> So, your choices become, just admit that you will need to get used to a two seater when you do go to a 996/997, or you buy another 1.8t wagon, because you aren't ready to admit your swan dive into a 2 seater yet.  That's major shock therapy, because a 1.8t wagon has more than a back seat, it can actually haul 5 spares instead of barely 1.
> 
> Many great suggestions have already come about.  Me, I'd just bite the bullet and get the Z06, you will likely forget the P car purchase.  The Viper would never make a auto-x car, a great track car tho...   The Viper certainly is a car I would someday own, because it's so brutal and raw, anmd it takes real talent to drive at speed.  
> 
> Alas, my vote for an interim toy would go over to my most memorable drive for 2012....  A bone stock '03-04 evo VIII.  Absolutely hands down the most under-rated car that is wicked fast and fun, has 4 doors, will haul it's track tires without twisting your back, and it will do fine at Auto-x, track, and summer drives with the A/C on.  I co-drove one at Grattan Raceway Audi advanced driver and HDPE, and back to back runs for 3 days, nary a hiccup.  Driving it at 8/10ths at that venue, the only cars that managed to pass me had full cages, not a single 4ringed machine could get close.
> 
> The bigger problem might be finding one that hasn't been tweeked, as a lot of Pizzo's just couldn't leave well enough alone.
> 
> Cheers and my .02
> 
> Scott J
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: lee <lee at wheelman.com>; S-car List <s-car-list at audifans.com>; Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 6:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] comments appreciated
> 
> 
> Lee,
> 
> without a doubt you should get a P car, specifically a mid engine model, more 
> specifically 
> a 1973 914 2.0 preferably black with ~63,000 original miles.
> 
> If you need help finding one let me know, I am confident I can source one... ;-)
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> Selling toyz to pay attorneys
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Lee Levitt <lee at wheelman.com>
>> To: S-car List <s-car-list at audifans.com>; Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:39 PM
>> Subject: [s-cars] comments appreciated
>> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> 5 years ago I asked this group for recommendations on a "play" car -- summer 
> driver and autocross/track day car.
>> 
>> Pretty much everyone responded with an "M" car recommendation.
>> 
>> So I picked up an '01 A4 quattro avant, 1.8t. Had a *lot* of fun with it over 
> the past five years.
>> 
>> Looks like my son will be moving out of his '97 A6 and into this '01 A4 
> sometime soon...which leaves me without a summer play car...
>> 
>> I'm back for more recommendations, and given my track record, I'm not going to 
> listen again (particularly if the answer is "M" car). :)
>> 
>> Here's the question...same criteria as before...still not interested in an "M" 
> car. Thinking about a Porsche 968 or perhaps an early 996 C2.
>> 
>> 968s are relatively inexpensive to purchase (~$10K) and reasonably competitive 
> in autocross. I believe they've already hit the bottom of their depreciation 
> curve. Older car, starting to age slightly, not yet difficult to keep on the 
> road...
>> 
>> Early (2002) 996s are inexpensive to purchase ($20K+) and also reasonably 
> competitive, in their classes. Newer car, more to break, potentially more 
> expensive when it breaks. I know about the IMS and RMS problems, would look for 
> a car with upgraded seals...
>> 
>> Again, primary use will be daily driver in the summer. 968 would probably see 
> some increasing (and shared) use as an autocross/track car by several people 
> (me, son, daughter, friend with 997TT, his sons), and eventually replaced as DD 
> by later 996 or 997. If I went the 996 route, we would eventually add a 944 or 
> 968 as shared autocross/track car.
>> 
>> Virtually no seat time in either yet, working on that now. I've spent a lot of 
> time on Rennlist, know (intellectually) the basics, but have no day to day 
> experience with either of these cars...
>> 
>> Boxster would be an obvious, but non-viable alternative...not really interested 
> in pure two seat convertible...Winter car remains '99 A6 wagon.
>> 
>> I know some of you have P-car afflictions in addition to our shared Audi 
> affliction.
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Lee
> 
> 
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