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I will attest that DWS's aren't objectively grippy (had trouble on some
harder corners, on the street, in the dry, keeping up with a member on this
board driving a summer tire shod Volvo, and this was in an STX prepped
Saabaru) but subjectively they drive fine, and for DD (daily driver) duties
I'm pretty pleased with them, especially since the transition season where
I live is rather long (we've had surprise snows in early May).  For
Autocross, track work or other at the limit driving on pavement, I'd NEVER
consider the DWS, they'd literally melt under the pressure. For that, I
have Dunlop Star Specs (waiting on tests of the SS2's vs the new BFG ST
class tire, oh, and for some $$$). For DD use, still can't complain about
the DWS (did I mention they are relatively cheap?).

On Monday, April 1, 2013, Cody Forbes wrote:

> No, not once did I compare all-seasons to race tires in that message,
> please read it again.
>
>  The grip of the DWS's as compared to ANYTHING was horrid. Other cars on
> various other street tires had MUCH more grip.
>
> With the amount of water on the track in the morning running the race
> tires would have been impossible so the choice was don't run or run the
> street tires. It was a private track day so there was no vendor available
> to buy tires from, and I wouldn't have anyways. Buying race wets for an
> less-than-HPDE level event where I was just having fun and instructing is
> stupid. I was expecting anything great, but they were horrible.
>
> DWS stands for Dry, Wet, Snow. That means they should have some wet
> capability. They didn't.
>
> -Cody Forbes (mobile)
>
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > That's a bit silly, Cody- you're comparing R rubber to snow-capable
> > all-season tires on the track?
> >
> > I don't know why you would use all-seasons at the track. Summer tires
> have
> > a lot more grip due to the compound, there is no good reason to choose
> > all-seasons. You should be running Hoosier Wets anyway, or cut slicks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM, John Cody Forbes <cody at 5000tq.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I've found the DWS to have pretty low grip when driven hard, and wet
> grip
> >> at 75% tread is abysmal. I was at a wet track day at VIR with the GMP
> Audi
> >> A5q. Normally we run race tires, but due to standing water I just left
> the
> >> street wheels on with the DWS's. Wylie here rode with me in one session
> and
> >> can attest to the fact that they were pitiful.
> >>
> >> -Cody
> >>
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