[s-cars] S4 Avant

[Josh]

Wow, guess personal experience and that of a close friend of mine don't count then?

Granted I'm sure there are other timing chain kits out there, the point is to replace everything that's a pita to replace while you have the motor out.  That runs into a decent piece of kit.

Friends motor was destroyed, to the point that he's currently swapping a 2.7t motor in.

This is a maintenance item that *all* the s4 v8's need.  It's an expensive job that you proactively need to do as you get little to no warning before something very bad happens

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On May 5, 2013, at 8:53 AM, JC <jc at j2c3.com> wrote:

> JHM whatever.  The link by Cody shows all the parts and prices.  You've picked a super "FULL PLUS" bundle by one particular part vendor in the biz of selling lots of parts where it looks like they've tossed in anything vaguely they could think of excusing doing at the same time. And you will note I agreed with replacing more stuff than less so don't put up a straw man there, however there are examples of things being tossed into those kits that may not even be wear items and/or can be done from above later if/when necessary, so its not false economy to not necessarily thrown the house at it and replace stuff that may be perfectly fine and easy to do later. 
> 
> And yeah this exactly the anecdotal "my friend had a / i new a guy / I saw a post on the internet" stuff that the smart folks know to discount against statistical information regardless of the car involved...  
> (as well as what does "it was toast" mean? does that mean not worth the cost of the timing chain service vs. a used motor? that's what a lot of guys turn out to mean... or does it mean that valves really tapped pistons... when I was researching these I chased down a number of "my motor was blown" stories on these cars that turned out to be "well dealer said it was going to be $8-10k to do the job so I consider the engine blown" - that's all well and good for the guy making the call but there's a factual difference between junked engine internals and just the same core problem that we are talking here w/ the timing chain systems needing to be done. )
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> And again - note I'm still with the idea to stay away from these unless they are super cheap or done already. 
> 
> Just saying lets stick to facts, and facts are it's not the Hindenberg-crashes-into-Titanic disaster that some make it out to be either in terms of frequency especially and to a lesser degree the total cost. 
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> /thread
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> On 5/5/2013 10:24, Josh wrote:
>> The jhm timing chain kit for this car is $4500.  
>> 
>> To go through the trouble of yanking the motor and not replacing everything is false economy.
>> 
>> My friends b6 s4 threw the cam code and even though the motor still ran, it was toast.
>