[s-cars] Electric Fan not working.....update

[Douglas Fifield]

OK, maybe I missed it.  But, could this be an ignition switch issue?

D.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:17 PM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:

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>  OK... glad you tried that and eliminated the fan and most of the wiring.
>
> Me... I'd test the relay next.  You indicated that there were 2 relays
> that said something about fans in your panel.  Did the fan run when you
> jumped each of them, or only one of them?
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> Assuming it ran when you jumped either one of them, I would swap those 2
> relays, as it would be an extraordinary event for both to fail at the same
> time.
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> At this point, you're down to either a bad relay, or whatever provides the
> relay with the signal to close the circuit.  Swapping the relays and
> running it, you could find that the fan operates.  Test it... but be
> careful not to get things too hot during your test.  If it fails to run,
> you can always jump the relay again to cool it back down.
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> The sad part is that it's been so long since I've worked on the UrS, that
> I can't tell you specifically what triggers each relay.  We would need a
> wiring diagram to determine that, or someone else on the list that is more
> current on their knowledge.
>
> Good luck,
> Dave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Fleischer <jim at almgt.com>
> To: djdawson2 <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, May 17, 2013 6:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Electric Fan not working.....update
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> Thanks Dave,
>
> Fan runs when jumping the relay terminals......and seems to run smooth and
> free of excess noise or vibration.....
>
> Soooo, what now?
>
> Thanks for the diagnosis help, for sure!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From:   djdawson2 at aol.com
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> To: jim at almgt.com
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> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:31 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Electric Fan not   working.....update
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> Make sure your   key is on for these tests.
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> You need to jump the   relays.  If no fan, then you need to test for power
> at the fan itself...   see if power is even getting there.
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> If you jump the relay   AND get power down by the fan, your fan is shot.
>
> You can   also try jumping hot straight to your fan to see if it will run
>   at all.
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> -----Original   Message-----
> From: Jim Fleischer <jim at almgt.com>
> To: djdawson2   <djdawson2 at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, May 17, 2013 1:05 pm
> Subject: Re:   [s-cars] Electric Fan not working.....update
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> Thanks Dave,
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> I figured out what you were saying, and jumped   both #214 relays like you
> said.  Nothin.....
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> Now what?
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> Thanks!  Jim
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From:     djdawson2 at aol.com
>
> To: jim at almgt.com
>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:31     PM
>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Electric Fan not     working.....update
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> Please try jumping your fan relays.  You could spend a     lot of wasted
> time chasing all the other stuff.
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> All you     need to do is locate the 30 and 87 terminals on the relay...
> jump the 2     prongs with a short piece of wire... see what happens.  Even
> if you     jump the incorrect relay, you're not in danger of doing any
> damage... just     make sure you get the correct 2 pins... 30 and 87.
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> -----Original     Message-----
> From: Jim Fleischer <jim at almgt.com>
> To: s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent:     Fri, May 17, 2013 12:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Electric Fan not     working.....update
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>
> Thanks to all who have chimed in......here's what I've got so far.
>
> 1.  60A blade fuse.....Okay
> 2.  Jumped the Thermo switch sensor wires under the intake manifold above
> the
> power steering pump.....Nothin'
> 3.  Jumped the connections on the Multi-Temp sensor on the radiator per
> SJM's
> site.....Nothin'
>
> Going to take the headlight out and check the connection behind there out
> tonight.  Have not been able to get power directly to the fan yet....I'll
> try
> that as well.
>
> Not sure which relays under the hood fuse panel are which.....there are two
> identical #214 in slots 1 and 2. There is a #217 in slot 3.  All say
> something
> about the Radiator fan.  Dave had mentioned something about jumping
> terminals in
> the relay, Dave if you could be more specific or guide me to a relevant
> link
> that tells me what terminals are where, on which relay, I'd really
> appreciate
> it. (I don't have a Bentley).  Thanks!
>
> Not having a choice, I have been driving the car to and from work, 20
> miles each
> way, mix of Interstate and country road, and the CC display has read
> nothing
> higher than 77C so far.....living on borrowed time I know, so hopefully
> can get
> to the bottom of it this weekend.
>
> Thanks all.....hope to get to it after work tonight.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jim Fleischer
> '95 urS6, keeping cool, for now.....
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