[urq] What's it worth?--LONG

[Martin Pajak]

Bill,

> Very few urquattros are still OEM, and generally a collector prefers an
>"original" pristine car and deal with the well-known problems of the
>earlier, pre-1983.5 urqs or the relatively fewer problems of the 1983.5 and
>later urqs.  And we in the US are only two years or so away from being able
>to import 1980 European urqs directly (after 25 years)--and the Canadians
>already can (15 years), so that the collector scarcity issue may also go
>away.

Yes, this is true
 I think the only models that will ever be consider
collectors items will be the ’81 with cable locks, the ’84 with unique
interior, the MB and RR cars.
And all of these in Euro trim.

As for US/Canadian
 only the ’84 might ever make it into the lower scale and
that’s still behind every other Euro car
.
Part of it has to be the “Ugly duckling” bumpers and 4 sealed beam headlight
configuration (doesn’t help).

>I have a personal bias that well-maintained unmodified urqs will have the
>best investment value, and I have gone the OEM route for my '82 Euro

Don’t know about that Bill
 didn’t look completely original to me....
stripes, A4 wheels and assortment of other mods
 not that there was anything
wrong with them ;)

Speaking of Original and Liek it just left the factory....
Hopefully Robert Gross will be able to make it to the next Ur-q gathering.
His completely original and stock ’85 Ur-q might be for sale soon and this
car is mint
 Not to knock any cars at the UPG but his is probably the best
car I have ever seen

The shame is that most of the people will not understand his asking price
because they do not appriciate the costs to restore an average car to that
condition.

>IMO, all an owner can do is enjoy the car, maintain it well, and sell it
for
>whatever the market is willing to pay when that time comes.

Exactly!

>
>Part of the rational behind the UPG urquattro-dedicated events is to
promote
>the cars and make other folks think they'd like to have one, thereby
>hopefully driving demand and prices up.

Is this one of the official purposes of UPG???  Just checking ;)
If you check out this months Thoroughbred SportsCars it features 10 top cars
to make money
 Ur-q is one of them
 ;)
Along with MkI GTI....

>A lot of owner mods do not, IMO, materially increase the car's value or
>worth, and I fear that mods that affect the fuel system or the electrical
>system probably detract from the car's collector value because a buyer can
>never be sure that the prior owner did the job correctly.  As reported to
>the Registry, a lot of fuel system mods have been reversed by a subsequent
>owner.  I agree that "right way" to do the wiring upgrade in an urq is to,
>as Huw suggests, replace the wiring harnesses in total, and not get
involved
>with a bunch of splices that could easily fail themselves, and about which
a
>new owner or shop would not have a clue how to find and repair.  No doubt
>keeping a log of the modifications (and an electric diagram for electrical
>system mods) will help increase the selling price of a modified urq.
>
>The best and only reason for owning a urq: enjoy it for yourself, keep good
>documentation of the mods you do, and hope that you can convince a future
>buyer that these mods make the car more reliable and hence more valuable.
>You "may" recoup a portion of your original investment, but if you want
real
>asset accumulation in the car game, you (and all the rest of us) needed to
>have found a Mille Miglia- or Targa Floria-winning Ferrari in a barn in
>Italy and have had $100,000 lying around to do the complete and perfect
>restoration.

Could not agree more.

That’s why I am getting myself into a 1971 Porsche 911T
. ;)

Cheers
Martin Pajak

http://www.quattro.ca

1983 Audi Ur-quattro (295,000 km) Canadian spec.

1985 Audi Ur-quattro (192,000 km) 3B Euro spec. import ;o)

1971 Porsche 911T (45,000k) All original and soon to be mine... ;)