[urq] RE: urq Digest, Vol 8, Issue 17 shift linkage.
packley
packley at verizon.net
Fri Jun 18 22:01:48 EDT 2004
This is a weak part, I broke one
after two days at Mid-Ohio, on the way home
to DC, and had only two gears for the whole trip!
Replaced with a new shift linkage that is much
more robust (can't recall if it was for a 4000Q)
which I think was the trick!
Tight fit, and you have to do the best to duplicate the
original length so that you do not have to put it on and
off again.
Phil A
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit, Only
Audi Content) (daniel darlington)
2. RE: Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit, Only
Audi Content) (Buchholz, Steven)
3. Re: Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit, Only
Audi Content) (Brandon Rogers)
4. Tranny Linkage fix (help?) (Jim Fleischer)
5. [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04? You
decide! (Paul Lethbridge)
6. Re: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide! (Brandon Rogers)
7. Re: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide! (Charles Baer)
8. RE: Tranny Linkage fix (help?) (Buchholz, Steven)
9. RE: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide! (Buchholz, Steven)
10. Re: Tranny Linkage fix (help?) (Justin)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:26:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: daniel darlington <lanky_d at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [urq] Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit,
Only Audi Content)
To: Bill Bennett <ur.quattro at verizon.net>
Cc: mailing list <urq at audifans.com>
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i use an Apexi turbo timer ($65 ebay) and i love it.
it also does battery voltage, and air/fuel.
--- Bill Bennett <ur.quattro at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi, anyone have a part # or source for a relay that
> will keep a component powered for 5 to 10 minutes
> after engine shut down? I found 191 955 532A on the
> ETKA, looks promising for my intercooler fans
> project, yes I am using two fans, and want them to
> run for awhile to avoid heat soak after a stop at
> the grocery store etc. @312 CFM each, they move
> serious air. Cooler intake air is Cool, Bill
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:27:47 -0700
From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: [urq] Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit,
Only Audi Content)
To: "'urq at audifans.com'" <urq at audifans.com>
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... are you really sure you need the complexity? If you started the fan
as
soon as the key was inserted, assuming the fan did move a lot of air, it
seems to me it would cool things down fairly quickly. With the solution
you're considering if you stay a little longer to savor the 7-Elevn
coffee
the fan might shut off and you'd have the same problem. Certainly you
don't
expect the engine and exhaust system to significantly cool in 10
minutes.
My recommendation ... power the fan circuit with a load reduction relay
that
turns on when the switch that rings the chime when the ignition key is
left
in the ignition switch. This way the fan will turn on (if needed) as
soon
as you insert the key ... and if you want the fans to run while the car
is
shut down for a few minutes you can leave a different key in the switch
(a
blank, or anything that would actuate the cover on the top of the
switch)
... then the fan would run the entire time you were out ...
Steve B
San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> Hi, anyone have a part # or source for a relay that will keep
> a component powered for 5 to 10 minutes after engine shut
> down? I found 191 955 532A on the ETKA, looks promising for
> my intercooler fans project, yes I am using two fans, and
> want them to run for awhile to avoid heat soak after a stop
> at the grocery store etc. @312 CFM each, they move serious
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:42:32 -0600
From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
Subject: Re: [urq] Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit,
Only Audi Content)
To: "Bill Bennett" <ur.quattro at verizon.net>, <urq at audifans.com>,
<audi20v at rennlist.org>
Message-ID: <004901c4554a$df851c00$0b01a8c0 at terrixden>
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Bill- I can't remember the P/N offhand, but what about the afterrun pump
relay from the later turbo cars?
Another thought....what about an intercooler mister? The benefits, I'm
thinking, could be twofold. A) you can use the mister while under boost
to
cool the IC, and B) you could mist the IC at shutdown, and while the
water
evaporates it would take heat with it, right?
Just thoughts...
Brandon
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From: "Bill Bennett" <ur.quattro at verizon.net>
To: <urq at audifans.com>; <audi20v at rennlist.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:41 PM
Subject: [urq] Time Delay Relays OAC (no not On Approved Credit,Only
Audi
Content)
Hi, anyone have a part # or source for a relay that will keep a
component
powered for 5 to 10 minutes after engine shut down? I found 191 955 532A
on
the ETKA, looks promising for my intercooler fans project, yes I am
using
two fans, and want them to run for awhile to avoid heat soak after a
stop at
the grocery store etc. @312 CFM each, they move serious air. Cooler
intake
air is Cool, Bill
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:17:42 -0600
From: "Jim Fleischer" <quattrotto at comcast.net>
Subject: [urq] Tranny Linkage fix (help?)
To: <urq at audifans.com>
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Hey guys,
Finally getting around to fix (permanently) my tranny linkage. The ball
on the selector shaft lever (#33 on ETKA diagram) on top of the tranny
came out of the bushing (#27 on same diagram) that is connected to the
linkage leading to the actual shifter. The ball went back in very
easily, however the tranny has lots of slop and I don't trust it. I'd
like to replace one, the other, or both pieces. Any advice on which to
replace and how? There is very little room to work within the tranny
tunnel, so getting the bushing out, then pressing the new one in seems
pretty difficult. Also, getting a wrench on the selector shaft lever
doesn't look all that easy, either. Any BTDT or similar tips? Thanks a
million!
Best regards,
Jim Fleischer
'83 ur
'90 CQ
'01 a/r
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:17:34 -0400
From: "Paul Lethbridge" <paul.lethbridge at ansys.com>
Subject: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04? You
decide!
To: <urq at audifans.com>
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Dear listers,
Quite a lot of response regarding the West Side UPG this week. Thanks!
To answer Steve's question I would be up for moving the event to late
August.
Not having any childerbeasts I overlooked the back to school issues!
So, who would be in for late August (weekend of the 28th) and who would
prefer September (weekend of the 11th)?
Kind regards,
Paul.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:33:38 -0600
From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
Subject: Re: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide!
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <001501c45584$4d56e180$0b01a8c0 at terrixden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I can do either. So regardless, count me in.
Brandon
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From: "Paul Lethbridge" <paul.lethbridge at ansys.com>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04? You
decide!
Dear listers,
Quite a lot of response regarding the West Side UPG this week. Thanks!
To answer Steve's question I would be up for moving the event to late
August.
Not having any childerbeasts I overlooked the back to school issues!
So, who would be in for late August (weekend of the 28th) and who would
prefer September (weekend of the 11th)?
Kind regards,
Paul.
--------------
'84 urq
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:09:08 -0600
From: Charles Baer <charlie at istari.com>
Subject: Re: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide!
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No compelling preferences here, no brood, no schooling...no class either
;-)
Charlie
Paul Lethbridge wrote:
>Dear listers,
>
>Quite a lot of response regarding the West Side UPG this week. Thanks!
>To answer Steve's question I would be up for moving the event to late
>August.
>Not having any childerbeasts I overlooked the back to school issues!
>So, who would be in for late August (weekend of the 28th) and who would
>prefer September (weekend of the 11th)?
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:59:16 -0700
From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: [urq] Tranny Linkage fix (help?)
To: urq at audifans.com
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... funny, I'm working through this on my former 4kQ ... my wife's
brother
now has it ...
What you'll find is that after you pop the locating arm socket off the
bellhousing and remove the attachment bolt on the tranny input shaft you
can
get the linkage to drop down where it can be more easily accessed. If
you
want even more room you can pop the shifter linkage out inside the
passenger
compartment ... if you want the linkage to come out of the car, mark the
relative positions of the fore and aft spline sections of the linkage to
make sure that you can put it together the same as it was beforehand ...
then loosen the clamp to allow the parts to come apart ...
Chances are what you'll need the ball and the "shift linkage" ... i.e.
the
rod that attaches to the shift rod on the tranny. You might want to
also
look at replacing the locating arm (sorry I don't remember the
Audi-speak
names) ... it's the arm that attaches to the ball at the top of the
tranny
bellhousing ... if you replaced all three parts you would catch all the
items that wear at the transmission end of the linkage ... but at
stealership prices you're probably talking $250+ in parts ...
I will also be replacing the clutch flex hose and clutch slave while I'm
in
there ... if your clutch is squishy you may want to do this as well ...
Steve B
San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> Finally getting around to fix (permanently) my tranny
> linkage. The ball on the selector shaft lever (#33 on ETKA
> diagram) on top of the tranny came out of the bushing (#27 on
> same diagram) that is connected to the linkage leading to the
> actual shifter. The ball went back in very easily, however
> the tranny has lots of slop and I don't trust it. I'd like
> to replace one, the other, or both pieces. Any advice on
> which to replace and how? There is very little room to work
> within the tranny tunnel, so getting the bushing out, then
> pressing the new one in seems pretty difficult. Also,
> getting a wrench on the selector shaft lever doesn't look all
> that easy, either. Any BTDT or similar tips? Thanks a million!
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:59:15 -0700
From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: [urq]: West Side UPG: Park City, August or September '04?
You decide!
To: urq at audifans.com
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<9E09E292BCEAA241A70F52F1A4B88D5F01D5667D at ca1xpr05-backup.kla-tencor.com
>
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... thanks for the consideration Paul! It sounds as though I'm the only
one
with a problem ... and 8/28 is no different than September for me ...
9/6 is the Labor Day holiday ... this might make it doable for me ...
but
nonetheless don't go out of your way for me! I will make an effort to
swing
it no matter when it finally ends up getting set ... it will give me
motivation to get the car back to running condition ...
Steve B
San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> Quite a lot of response regarding the West Side UPG this week. Thanks!
> To answer Steve's question I would be up for moving the event to late
> August.
> Not having any childerbeasts I overlooked the back to school issues!
> So, who would be in for late August (weekend of the 28th) and
> who would
> prefer September (weekend of the 11th)?
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:44:12 -0700
From: "Justin" <cbrooks22 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [urq] Tranny Linkage fix (help?)
To: <urq at audifans.com>, "Jim Fleischer" <quattrotto at comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00b701c4559e$ec5629c0$40800744 at toshibauser>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Yeah, I'm working through my linkage problems too....the bushing on my
4kq
wore straight through. After looking at the bushing, I don't think it
can be
replaced by pushing a new one in...(could be wrong on this...). I drove
it
for a while this way and eventually bent the shift rod!!
Your best bet is to find one in the yards in good condition, but getting
them in and adjusting them correctly is the biggest PIA. I eventually
gave
up on it and had the Audi shop do the adjustment.
Steven has good advice, if your going through the trouble of fixing
the
linkage, might as well replace the slave cylinder, hose and clutch
cylinder.
They are always on ebay for cheap...
Best of luck to you..
Justin
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From: "Jim Fleischer" <quattrotto at comcast.net>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:17 PM
Subject: [urq] Tranny Linkage fix (help?)
Hey guys,
Finally getting around to fix (permanently) my tranny linkage. The ball
on
the selector shaft lever (#33 on ETKA diagram) on top of the tranny came
out
of the bushing (#27 on same diagram) that is connected to the linkage
leading to the actual shifter. The ball went back in very easily,
however
the tranny has lots of slop and I don't trust it. I'd like to replace
one,
the other, or both pieces. Any advice on which to replace and how?
There
is very little room to work within the tranny tunnel, so getting the
bushing
out, then pressing the new one in seems pretty difficult. Also, getting
a
wrench on the selector shaft lever doesn't look all that easy, either.
Any
BTDT or similar tips? Thanks a million!
Best regards,
Jim Fleischer
'83 ur
'90 CQ
'01 a/r
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