[urq] Upper Wastegate Hose on '83 Ur Quattro

Justin cbrooks22 at cox.net
Tue May 4 22:58:22 EDT 2004


Just to complete the discussion, here is a pic of a WR engine with a vacuum
hose clearly going to the wastgate port from the Igloo...
(middle pic...)
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/6172/pictures.html
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Baer" <charlie at istari.com>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] Upper Wastegate Hose on '83 Ur Quattro


> There better not be any flow out of that port, unless you have a torn
> diaphragm.  When the wastegate opens, it is letting engine exhaust bypass
> the turbine.
>
> I concur with the senator from Kaleefohnia, the top port is for a
reference
> pressure to balance against the IM pressure.  Feeding pressure into the
top
> port with a schrappnelknobben delays wastegate opening by lowering the
> pressure differential on the diaphragm when boost increases.  Tapping into
> the pre-turbo intake tract will increase the boost pressure
> differential, admittedly
> by a small amount, and open the wastegate earlier than it would with the
> port vented to atmosphere.
>
> Charlie
>
> Justin wrote:
>
> >Yeah, I've seen the vacuum diagrams listed on the WX in the following
> >document on Martin's site: http://www.quattro.ca/Urq/urq-IST-MaintAdj.pdf
> >As using the Igloo port as a vacuum for the "Evaporative emission control
> >system"..basically the gas tank venalation...which I don't think the WR's
> >had... (as far as I know...).
> >So, connecting the wastgate port to the Igloo should be o.k., since the
> >vacuum created in the line is small....and would allow air to vent into
the
> >intake system once the gate opens....
> >    I think is just matter of your personal preferece...
> >
> >Justin
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> >To: <urq at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 5:01 PM
> >Subject: RE: [urq] Upper Wastegate Hose on '83 Ur Quattro
> >
> >
> >... I don't see any way that it would make any more sense ... that port
is
> >documented as a vent on the WX ... it doesn't need to be connected to
> >anything ... in fact if you started drawing a vacuum there you would be
> >working against the WG spring and actually causing the WG to open sooner.
> >Admittedly there isn't much of a vacuum on the back side of the airflow
> >sensor plate.  Its been a while since I've looked at the engine in my
car,
> >but I know that the line coming off the top of the igloo on the WX is
> >definitely connected elsewhere ...
> >
> >
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