[urq] Audi A4 brakes for the urq

[Brandon Rogers]

Somewhere in Phil's post he touched on the big issue, IMO.  ***What will fit
under 15 inch wheels???***  Personally, if it won't fit under stock wheels
it's a deal killer.  I have no personal experience with stock brakes but I
understand they are fine for street use.  IMO G60's have been fine on the
street and on spirited mountain drives.  Frankly I thought they were great
on the three tracks I've used them on - never faded, good stopping power and
feel.  But yep they are heavy.

I guess my point is that it shouldn't be hard to come up with brake upgrades
if you go with bigger wheels, but coming up with a lightweight upgrade for
stock wheels is the challenge....I know it's been done with Porsche calipers
and custom brackets and Sport Q rotors, and with Sport Q calipers etc, but
something more affordable/more common would be desirable.... There has been
talk of putting A4 stuff under the 15 inch wheels but I'm not sure how that
is an upgrade...is it a bigger rotor?  Lighter weight?  I'm pretty sure it's
only single piston..

Brandon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "packley" <packley at verizon.net>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: [urq] Audi A4 brakes for the urq


> Rich:
>
> Your information is awesome and timely, I have
> always suspected the A4/urq equation.
>
> So the urq folks should recognize some inexpensive
> upgrades now available that are better than the old G60.
>
> The question for many is what will work with 15" rims?
>
> If that is not a question, then the A4 line
> of brakes adds an inexpensive upgrade path.
>
> First they can use A4 calipers with TT brackets
> and use the A8 rotor which will be more brake
> than the G60, and A4 owners are throwing calipers
> away when they upgrade to Brembo,Stoptech, etc., so they should be
> available inexpensively.  This would be a decent upgrade for a stock
> urq.
>
> Boxster over A8 is next upgrade, or ECS special rotors.
>
> There are so many A4 brake upgrades...take your pick;
> from 25mm to 32 mm thickness, and from 276? to 314 or larger
> rotor sizes, just depends on how much wheel you will stuff
> it into!
>
> Brembo or Stoptech are the ultimate front brake, but will require
> 17" rims; although, I am sure you can make 996 calipers work on
> 16" rims.
>
> You mentioned rear 200/urS4 rears. Be careful here.
> 200 rotors have a different offset (hat dimension) than
> the urS4.  I made this mistake, as I have both a 91 Avant
> and an 96 S6 and the rear rotors are different, but the
> calipers are the same.
>
> What do you use for emergency brake cables to make the
> calipers work?
>
> Thanks for the excellent information.
>
> Phil Ackley
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:53:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rich Letsinger <ricoletsinger at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [urq] Ronal R8 weights, 8x15" and other brake comments
> To: urq at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <20040916165356.7090.qmail at web41809.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> > It seems the urq and the A4 are similar
> > caliper dimensions, but no one has reported
> > such a conversion.
>
> Well then let me be the one to report it... ;)
>
> A4 brakes are a direct bolt-on to the urq.  I ran a
> set of A4 calipers and rotors and they were marginally
> better than the G60 setup I had before it.  Then I
> tried a BIRA Sys1 setup, Boxster calipers over A8
> rotors, and it worked very well.  Finally I've gone
> with a StopTech kit designed for the A4.  Combined
> with the 200/S4 rear brakes, the car stops awesome.
>
> Rich
>
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