[urq] Audi A4 bumpers are well rated

LL - NY larrycleung at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 21:14:40 EDT 2007


Having seen some of the Type 85's in the wrecking yard, I'd venture a guess
that
you didn't go "straight in" in your accident. The 4K's passenger compartment
seems to buckle in a header, at least based upon empirical forensic analysis
at the wrecking yard, I think you were lucky.

A1 VW's were also pretty much tin cans. A2's started having somewhat of
a "crash cage", but nowhere near what the more modern cars have. Since
the B3 cars were designed about the same time (actually, later) than the
A2's, I'd venture a guess that they are notably better than the type 85.

Of course, Physics tells us, no matter what, in a vehicle vs. vehicle
accident,
mass wins, the greater the mass, the lower the accelerations, therefore the
lower the force on the passengers. Single car crashes favor the better
designed
cars, although if they made an H1 meet the same standards as passenger cars,

it'd be invincible. Of course, it'd have to be, since it wouldn't even be
able to get
out of it's own way.

LL - NY

On 8/16/07, Todd Phenneger <tquattroguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I was in a rather fast accident in a 4kq and it fared "Rather I Fared"
> quite
> well.  I had no wiplash, the body structure did what it was supposed to
> and
> overall it fared much better than the other car.
>
> I don't know about the smaller A2 VW Cars, or especially the A1 cars, but
> starting with the Audi 80/90q we started to see some real safety
> improvements designed into Audi's.  So I"m not sure what your Definition
> of
> "Contemporary" is but I would have no problems being in an accident in a
> 90q.  But if I"m going to get broadsided by a MAC Truck, OR and
> H1/H2  Then
> I'd rather be in an A8. :-)
>
>
>
>
> > From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:48:11 -0500
> > To: Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>
> > Cc: <urq at audifans.com>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> > Subject: Re: [urq] Audi A4 bumpers are well rated
> >
> > perhaps it's because these new bumpers have to support
> > sooooo much heavier a car.
> >
> > FWIW, I'd not really want to be in a crash with an A1 or
> > A2 VW (or contermporary Audi, or BMW, somehow, I'd
> > be okay in an MB) at any speed above say 15 MPH.
> >
> > LL - NY
> >
> > On 8/11/07, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> WOW!! I thought the point of all this added weight was more safety and
> >> better build. In some cases, maybe, but to see that Escort take a hit
> >> like that, and then see the C-class get all messed up, I never
> >> imagined. Maybe my 82 Jetta is safer than I thought!!
> >>
> >> Tony Hoffman
> >>
> >> On 8/10/07, Louis-Alain Richard <larichard at plguide.com> wrote:
> >>> It is so funny to see brand new mid-size luxury cars being
> >>> crashed at only 5 mph (front-rear) and 3 mph (corner) and
> >>> suffer such damages.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.iihs.org/video.aspx?f=releases/pr080207.flv
> >>>
> >>> I guess our older cars would fare better, like the Escort.
> >>>
> >>> Louis-Alain
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