[urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation

Tue May 18 20:28:58 PDT 2010

if youre willing to widdle some metal its worth it yes. noticable
improvement.
 im kind of surprised there hasnt been a revision yet.

after thinking back, i was most disappointed with having to cut up a nice
piece of already finished metal. having to use POR-15 afterward and wait
further was also a bother with a one car garage & extra time up etc,..

-brian

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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Ed Torres <bike-doctor at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Well, good to know,
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> because, after listen to all of you about firewall cracks.  I was thinking
> in buying the 034 brace....
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> So, you guys recomen this unit?
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> I have a dremling tool, would that do the small trim requier?
>
> Do I need to disconect any lines? or just work my puzzleing magic?
> Tnx for any responce
>
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> > From: benswann at verizon.net
> > To: larichard at plguide.com; dgraber460 at aol.com; ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com;
> qweblog at gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:59:33 -0400
> > CC: urq at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> > OK - I was finally able to get it to fit correctly. The car was fine - no
> deviation and
> > actually quite solid.
> >
> > The brace was probably in spec. but did not take into count some things
> (below) that
> > would typically be an issue on installation. I think several others had
> the problem.
> >
> > 1. The master cylinder on some cars is larger diameter. The fix was to
> shave a little
> > off the opening that allows the brace to slip over the MS. No biggie and
> was not the
> > major issue.
> >
> > 2. The weld bead on the steering rack can interfere with the brace laying
> flush with the
> > rack flange. The weld kept the flange from seating. The solution was to
> grind out the
> > area in the brace that interfered. Once I did that, it fit fine.
> >
> > Job nearly complete - just need to hook up the fluid line and pedal link.
> In theory, I
> > should not have had to undo the clutch pedal link to the MS. Apparently
> there was
> > supposed to be some instructions that I did not get, although I don't
> think they would
> > have warned me about the clearance issue.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Louis-Alain Richard [mailto:larichard at plguide.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:29 PM
> > To: dgraber460 at aol.com; ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; qweblog at gmail.com
> > Cc: benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com
> > Subject: RE: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> > Me too, I installed a new bracket that James Pasqualoni sold me. I think
> it was a
> > pre-034 unit. It went on smoothly, with the engine in place on a running
> car. My
> > firewall was not cracked (1983) at all, a surprise since the clutch pedal
> was so hard to
> > depress before the clutch R&R in 2002.
> >
> > Louis-Alain
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] De la
> part de
> > dgraber460 at aol.com Envoyé : 18 mai 2010 18:25 À :
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com;
> > qweblog at gmail.com Cc : benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com Objet :
> Re: [urq] 034 MS
> > firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> >
> > I had gotten 2 of the original run units from Jeff.
> > The first went into my first URQ with everything lining up nats.
> > The second went into the URQ I have now and required much modification
> because the
> > firewall was cracked, bent and some previous welding had been attempted
> to fix it. Which
> > it didn't. Major wrestling match but got it in and it locked the bent
> parts solid in
> > their current positions.
> > My guess is that many of the fit issues are from the firewall already
> flexing but not
> > visibly cracked.
> > I was very impressed by the quality of the braces.
> >
> > Dennis
> > Denver
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
> > To: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ben Swann <benswann at verizon.net>; urq at audifans.com
> > Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:57 pm
> > Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> >
> > Have no idea regarding the 034 piece. I bought the original one (maybe
> even
> > he last one) from Jeff Lewis and it went (uninstalled) with the car back
> to
> > ob Dupree, who as I recall, subsequently installed it without any issues.
> > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:38 PM, brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ben, mine did not even come close to fitting. MC bolt holes didnt line
> up,
> > bracket didnt fit around the MC, bracket clashed with brake lines & more.
> >
> > Took me hours to machine various sections away.
> >
> > I will look for my pictures to email off-list.
> >
> > I was very frustrated at the time, being one of the first experiences I
> had
> > with 034. Javad and another gentleman whose name i forget at present told
> > me
> > that these cars were all custom one off's and that it was very difficult
> to
> > make one piece fit all. This argument has its merits, but the design of
> the
> > bracket could have been altered sice then, as I was told it would be.
> > However that doesnt excuse the MC holes being misplaced, as those ARE
> > massed
> > produced to relatively strict tolerances.
> >
> > Once I dealt with it and installed, there was an improvement.
> >
> > -brian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mine fit great when I put it on about 7 yrs ago. Was a PITA but well
> > worth
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > > '84 ur
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Ben Swann
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:11 AM
> > > To: urq at audifans.com
> > > Cc: benswann at verizon.net
> > > Subject: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am having some fitment issues with the firewall bracket I got from
> 034
> > > Motorsport. I am waiting to hear back from Javad at 034, but in the
> > meantime
> > > trying to make it work. Presently with brace bolted to the steering
> rack,
> > > the master cyl. End is not lineing up with where the MS goes - about
> 1/4"
> > > too high and 1/4" too far to the center of the car.
> > >
> > > I already had to machine some metal off the part that slips around the
> > > cylinder which was too large in diameter to slip over.
> > >
> > > Any BTDT with installation? Car is '83 Ur Quattro with Original Clutch
> > > Master AFAIK.
> > >
> > > Ben
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