[urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation

Tue May 18 20:47:20 PDT 2010

I have the original instructions from Jeff Lewis for the unit that went into 
my 85 urq (cracked firewall but no brace modifications required).  E-mail 
direct if anyone wants a copy - too long to transcribe.

Alan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Torres" <bike-doctor at hotmail.com>
Cc: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation

Well, good to know,

because, after listen to all of you about firewall cracks.  I was thinking 
in buying the 034 brace....

So, you guys recomen this unit?

I have a dremling tool, would that do the small trim requier?

Do I need to disconect any lines? or just work my puzzleing magic?
Tnx for any responce

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Ed Torres
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Norwalk Ct 06855
RIDE & DRIVE SAFE & SMOOTH!!

> From: benswann at verizon.net
> To: larichard at plguide.com; dgraber460 at aol.com; ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; 
> qweblog at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:59:33 -0400
> CC: urq at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
>
> OK - I was finally able to get it to fit correctly. The car was fine - no 
> deviation and
> actually quite solid.
>
> The brace was probably in spec. but did not take into count some things 
> (below) that
> would typically be an issue on installation. I think several others had 
> the problem.
>
> 1. The master cylinder on some cars is larger diameter. The fix was to 
> shave a little
> off the opening that allows the brace to slip over the MS. No biggie and 
> was not the
> major issue.
>
> 2. The weld bead on the steering rack can interfere with the brace laying 
> flush with the
> rack flange. The weld kept the flange from seating. The solution was to 
> grind out the
> area in the brace that interfered. Once I did that, it fit fine.
>
> Job nearly complete - just need to hook up the fluid line and pedal link. 
> In theory, I
> should not have had to undo the clutch pedal link to the MS. Apparently 
> there was
> supposed to be some instructions that I did not get, although I don't 
> think they would
> have warned me about the clearance issue.
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louis-Alain Richard [mailto:larichard at plguide.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: dgraber460 at aol.com; ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; qweblog at gmail.com
> Cc: benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
>
> Me too, I installed a new bracket that James Pasqualoni sold me. I think 
> it was a
> pre-034 unit. It went on smoothly, with the engine in place on a running 
> car. My
> firewall was not cracked (1983) at all, a surprise since the clutch pedal 
> was so hard to
> depress before the clutch R&R in 2002.
>
> Louis-Alain
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] De la part 
> de
> dgraber460 at aol.com Envoyé : 18 mai 2010 18:25 À : 
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com;
> qweblog at gmail.com Cc : benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com Objet : Re: 
> [urq] 034 MS
> firewall brace/bracket installation
>
>
> I had gotten 2 of the original run units from Jeff.
> The first went into my first URQ with everything lining up nats.
> The second went into the URQ I have now and required much modification 
> because the
> firewall was cracked, bent and some previous welding had been attempted to 
> fix it. Which
> it didn't. Major wrestling match but got it in and it locked the bent 
> parts solid in
> their current positions.
> My guess is that many of the fit issues are from the firewall already 
> flexing but not
> visibly cracked.
> I was very impressed by the quality of the braces.
>
> Dennis
> Denver
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
> To: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ben Swann <benswann at verizon.net>; urq at audifans.com
> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
>
>
> Have no idea regarding the 034 piece. I bought the original one (maybe 
> even
> he last one) from Jeff Lewis and it went (uninstalled) with the car back 
> to
> ob Dupree, who as I recall, subsequently installed it without any issues.
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:38 PM, brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ben, mine did not even come close to fitting. MC bolt holes didnt line 
> > up,
> bracket didnt fit around the MC, bracket clashed with brake lines & more.
>
> Took me hours to machine various sections away.
>
> I will look for my pictures to email off-list.
>
> I was very frustrated at the time, being one of the first experiences I 
> had
> with 034. Javad and another gentleman whose name i forget at present told
> me
> that these cars were all custom one off's and that it was very difficult 
> to
> make one piece fit all. This argument has its merits, but the design of 
> the
> bracket could have been altered sice then, as I was told it would be.
> However that doesnt excuse the MC holes being misplaced, as those ARE
> massed
> produced to relatively strict tolerances.
>
> Once I dealt with it and installed, there was an improvement.
>
> -brian
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Mine fit great when I put it on about 7 yrs ago. Was a PITA but well
> worth
> > it.
> >
> > Brandon
> > '84 ur
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ben Swann
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:11 AM
> > To: urq at audifans.com
> > Cc: benswann at verizon.net
> > Subject: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> >
> >
> > I am having some fitment issues with the firewall bracket I got from 034
> > Motorsport. I am waiting to hear back from Javad at 034, but in the
> meantime
> > trying to make it work. Presently with brace bolted to the steering 
> > rack,
> > the master cyl. End is not lineing up with where the MS goes - about 
> > 1/4"
> > too high and 1/4" too far to the center of the car.
> >
> > I already had to machine some metal off the part that slips around the
> > cylinder which was too large in diameter to slip over.
> >
> > Any BTDT with installation? Car is '83 Ur Quattro with Original Clutch
> > Master AFAIK.
> >
> > Ben
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