[urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation

Tue May 18 20:54:57 PDT 2010

I still recommend it.  There are no other options that I'm aware of except
making one yourself.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Torres
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:07 PM
Cc: urq at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation

Well, good to know,

because, after listen to all of you about firewall cracks.  I was thinking
in buying the 034 brace....

So, you guys recomen this unit?

I have a dremling tool, would that do the small trim requier?

Do I need to disconect any lines? or just work my puzzleing magic? Tnx for
any responce

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Ed Torres
FA901038 UrQuattro
Norwalk Ct 06855
RIDE & DRIVE SAFE & SMOOTH!!  

> From: benswann at verizon.net
> To: larichard at plguide.com; dgraber460 at aol.com; 
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; qweblog at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:59:33 -0400
> CC: urq at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> 
> OK - I was finally able to get it to fit correctly. The car was fine - 
> no deviation and actually quite solid.
> 
> The brace was probably in spec. but did not take into count some 
> things (below) that would typically be an issue on installation. I 
> think several others had the problem.
> 
> 1. The master cylinder on some cars is larger diameter. The fix was to 
> shave a little off the opening that allows the brace to slip over the 
> MS. No biggie and was not the major issue.
> 
> 2. The weld bead on the steering rack can interfere with the brace 
> laying flush with the rack flange. The weld kept the flange from 
> seating. The solution was to grind out the area in the brace that 
> interfered. Once I did that, it fit fine.
> 
> Job nearly complete - just need to hook up the fluid line and pedal 
> link. In theory, I should not have had to undo the clutch pedal link 
> to the MS. Apparently there was supposed to be some instructions that 
> I did not get, although I don't think they would have warned me about 
> the clearance issue.
> 
> Ben
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louis-Alain Richard [mailto:larichard at plguide.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: dgraber460 at aol.com; ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; qweblog at gmail.com
> Cc: benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> 
> Me too, I installed a new bracket that James Pasqualoni sold me. I 
> think it was a pre-034 unit. It went on smoothly, with the engine in 
> place on a running car. My firewall was not cracked (1983) at all, a 
> surprise since the clutch pedal was so hard to depress before the 
> clutch R&R in 2002.
> 
> Louis-Alain
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] De la 
> part de dgraber460 at aol.com Envoyé : 18 mai 2010 18:25 À : 
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com; qweblog at gmail.com Cc : 
> benswann at verizon.net; urq at audifans.com Objet : Re: [urq] 034 MS 
> firewall brace/bracket installation
> 
> 
> I had gotten 2 of the original run units from Jeff.
> The first went into my first URQ with everything lining up nats. The 
> second went into the URQ I have now and required much modification 
> because the firewall was cracked, bent and some previous welding had 
> been attempted to fix it. Which it didn't. Major wrestling match but 
> got it in and it locked the bent parts solid in their current 
> positions. My guess is that many of the fit issues are from the 
> firewall already flexing but not visibly cracked. I was very impressed 
> by the quality of the braces.
> 
> Dennis
> Denver
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
> To: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ben Swann <benswann at verizon.net>; urq at audifans.com
> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> 
> 
> Have no idea regarding the 034 piece. I bought the original one (maybe 
> even he last one) from Jeff Lewis and it went (uninstalled) with the 
> car back to ob Dupree, who as I recall, subsequently installed it 
> without any issues. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:38 PM, brian hoeft 
> <qweblog at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ben, mine did not even come close to fitting. MC bolt holes didnt 
> > line up,
> bracket didnt fit around the MC, bracket clashed with brake lines & 
> more.
> 
> Took me hours to machine various sections away.
> 
> I will look for my pictures to email off-list.
> 
> I was very frustrated at the time, being one of the first experiences 
> I had with 034. Javad and another gentleman whose name i forget at 
> present told me that these cars were all custom one off's and that it 
> was very difficult to make one piece fit all. This argument has its 
> merits, but the design of the bracket could have been altered sice 
> then, as I was told it would be. However that doesnt excuse the MC 
> holes being misplaced, as those ARE massed
> produced to relatively strict tolerances.
> 
> Once I dealt with it and installed, there was an improvement.
> 
> -brian
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Mine fit great when I put it on about 7 yrs ago. Was a PITA but well
> worth
> > it.
> >
> > Brandon
> > '84 ur
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ben Swann
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:11 AM
> > To: urq at audifans.com
> > Cc: benswann at verizon.net
> > Subject: [urq] 034 MS firewall brace/bracket installation
> >
> >
> >
> > I am having some fitment issues with the firewall bracket I got from 
> > 034 Motorsport. I am waiting to hear back from Javad at 034, but in the
> meantime
> > trying to make it work. Presently with brace bolted to the steering 
> > rack, the master cyl. End is not lineing up with where the MS goes - 
> > about 1/4" too high and 1/4" too far to the center of the car.
> >
> > I already had to machine some metal off the part that slips around 
> > the cylinder which was too large in diameter to slip over.
> >
> > Any BTDT with installation? Car is '83 Ur Quattro with Original 
> > Clutch Master AFAIK.
> >
> > Ben
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