[urq] V8 Brake swap for UrQ - saga continues..

[mike schowengerdt]

Ben, as thorough as you have been, and many have chimed in, but i have not heard 
any one mention checking for the infamous broken firewall.......which could well 
cause the symptom you describe........m




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From: Ben Swann <benswann at verizon.net>
To: rpastore at animalfeeds.com
Cc: urq at audifans.com
Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 2:37:41 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] V8 Brake swap for UrQ - saga continues..

New Booster.

The old one worked, just leaked.  I obtained a completely resealed booster.  It 
is
operating pretty much the same as the old one, without the small drip that was 
coming
out of the retainer screw.

I don't think the booster would cause this problem, nor the bomb.  A bad booster 
would
have hard pedal due to no assist.

I have a soft pedal - car running or not.

Please let me know if this is not correct, but I think I have a combination of 
problems
- master (leaking internally), possible bad/going bad proportioning valve and or 
bias
not compensating, possible line sponginess (new lines ordered) and/or fittings 
not
sealing.

I will do everything at once, even though I know one should generally do one 
change at a
time.  I'm so far past that point, I think I need to start with new parts all 
around.  I
have bled this system innumerable times.  The original booster had been purged 
of its
contents many times - mostly due to bad rack to bomb hose.  That was fixed, but 
the left
rear caliper was dragging - it was time for new rears.  There may have been 
component
problem casuig the rear caliper to drag , but probably just old and internal 
corrosion -
rotor was toast.

I have both masters on order.  I would think the later version is more correct 
since it
is used on the later  5000 - that is the car the front brakes came off. 

I may go ahead with the Porsche Black 4 Pot  monoblocks - I think they come off 
a 944.
Anyway they bolt right up, unlike the Big Red that needs adaptors.

I ordered a Willwood proportioning valve:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-260-8419/

New lines all-around - nbot the solid lines - they are fine,m just the rubbeer 
lines.  I
may have some trouble bleeding a mostly fresh system, but it shouldn’t' be worse 
than
what I have now ( I hope).

Ben

[Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:46:18 -0500
From: Robert Pastore <rpastore at animalfeeds.com>
Subject: Re: [urq] V8 Brake swap for UrQ  - saga continues..
To: urq at audifans.com
Message-ID: <4CD81B4A.5020804 at animalfeeds.com>
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Ben:

What did you do to solve the hydraulic booster problem you had?    
Despite all the good 'theories' about matching the MC and calipers, my 
experience is the
same as Scott J's -- I've used V8/S4 rears and big red (stoptech) fronts with 
the stock
23mm MC without any noticeable difference in pedal travel.  Are you sure the 
booster
isn't still the problem?

Bob]
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