[urq] Cylinder head retorque

[Patrick Carlier]

Assuming you've measured torque with a cold engine , I'de say
this isn't necessarily abnormal .

With a hot engine , torque will be higher , that's what stretchbolts are for 
.
They kinda act like a spring .

That said , the audi 10VT engines do have bit of a bad rep for
headgasket problems if they need to be replaced .
Did you have the head machined to straighten the surface ?
I ususally have both block and head machined when changing gasket .
Most of the time this avoids problems .

I've heard that using stud bolts and nuts is a better option then the 
stretch bolts .
Unconfirmed ., never did it .
Onother rumour I've heard is that the all metal head gasket from the AAN and 
ABY engines
also fits the 10V 's , and that it's a better option .
Once again unconfirmed .


Pat



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis-Alain Richard" <laraa at sympatico.ca>
To: <urq at audifans.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 2:42 AM
Subject: [urq] Cylinder head retorque


> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> A little wrap-up from two years ago. I exploded the engine (stock) in my 
> 250
> 000 km urQuattro in January 2008. I replaced it with a lightly rebuilt 
> stock
> WX (block and piston's grooves cleaned, new rings and bearings, head 
> checked
> and cleaned, new gaskets) in June 2008. The car saw only a few ice racing
> sessions after that, gentle ice lapping would be a better description, and
> maybe 5000 km of street duty. In January 2010, I had to replace the heater
> core, which I did. After that, I noticed there was some "bubbling" noises
> coming from the heater core. I thought it was air trapped in there, and it
> would go away after a few km. I ice-lapped the car 2 more times in 2010, 
> and
> used very little afterwards. I did notice however that the car smoked on
> start-up, thick white smoke that disappeared after a while.
>
>
>
> Recently, like last month, the smoke was permanent. Time for a head gasket
> replacement, or maybe even a head replacement since these WX are prone to
> cracks between the valves.
>
>
>
> Today, we removed the cam cover, just to discover that every single head
> bolt was under torqued. As an example, I adjusted my (new) torque wrench 
> to
> 45 ft-lb, and was able to add 30 to 60 degrees to each bolt to reach that
> setting after I "cracked" loose the stiction.  The specs are 29 ft-lbs, 
> then
> 45, then add 180 degrees. We followed that sequence in 2008, with new head
> bolts and a good Snap-on clicker torque wrench.
>
>
>
> Now, tell me, what went wrong ?
>
> We used a (made in Germany) Elring gasket set, a lot of new stuff, we took
> our time, didn't drink too many beers, it was nice outside, the moon was 
> in
> Capricorn, etc.
>
>
>
> Louis-Alain
>
> 1983 urQuattro
>
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