[urq] Clutch for Urq with 3b? _ Throw out bearing clarification

[Chris Miller]

That is helpful; I have the later style fork with new throwout bearing on
the '91 coupe quattro transmission, and can repurpose that to the locker urq
016.
Thanks, Chris

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From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Justusson
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 8:32 PM
To: lawson.d at comcast.net; urq at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [urq] Clutch for Urq with 3b? _ Throw out bearing clarification


Technically, 016 Throw Out Bearings don't go with *transmission*, they go
with the Throw Out Bearing *Fork*.  The 016 Turbo Locker trans uses the
'early style' 2 metal-clip type throwout bearing that physically clips to
the cast throw out bearing fork.  The 016 Turbo Torsen trans uses the 'later
style' snap-in throwout bearing with a stamped throw out bearing fork.  The
respective *mated* bearing and fork pairs can be installed in either
transmission without issue.

All Audi Manual Transmissions ''91 200>, use the later style clip-in
throwout bearings.

HTH

Scott J
87 4ktq
2 x Urq
2 x CGT
92 v8


-----Original Message-----
From: lawson.d <lawson.d at comcast.net>
To: urq <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [urq] Clutch for Urq with 3b?



Chris, Congrats on the urq, its great to see another one surface after
having a 
rest. 

>OK, clutch kit spec is 200q20v, including the small pilot bearing in the 
>crankshaft. Is the throwout bearing compatible with the stock urq locker 
>transmission, or do we need to order a different one than in the 200q20v 
>kit? 

>On the bellhousing, is it just drilling the appropriate hole larger to 
>handle both sensors? Probably obvious and I'll look when it stops raining 
>here. 

Just yesterday, there was some info posted about the 20vt clutch on a
project 
thread on motorgeek. 
>From that post and my recent experience of putting an RR 20vt into my urq, I
can 
state I used the following: 

RR(basically 3B) engine 
RR flat flywheel 
Southbend clutch for the flat flywheel 
016 urq locker transmission 
016 locker throwout bearing and fork 
016 pilot bearing (20VT pilot bearing doesn't fit the 016 transmission main 
shaft) 

Martin has listed a different set of parts that has worked for the northern 
neighbors, they used an 016 torsen throwout bearing and fork with a 016
locker 
transmission. When I was polling the CO urq guys, they all said to use the 
throwout bearing and fork that belongs with the transmission being used. I 
followed that logic and it seems to be working on my car. 

I was also warned that I would need to so some drilling/grinding to get the
20VT 
engine speed/TDC sensor block to fit. But when I put it together, everything
fit 
fine. BTW, this was with an RR set of sensors which might be different than
the 
3B mounting block. I haven't checked ETKA to verify. 
- 
Dave 
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