R.I.P. Phil. A wealth of knowledge I really hadn't paid attention to, never having owned an urQ. Now that one will be in my garage hopefully in about a month, well.... ...speaking of which, any plans to keep the info from his urquattro website online somehow? -- Wylie Bean TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com 90 cq 91 90q20v sport 91 200q20v (for sale) 92 UrS4 08 Q7 3.6