[urq] ABT ignitionbox
Patrick Carlier
p.carlier at pandora.be
Sat Sep 28 02:28:47 PDT 2013
Yes , couldn't agree with you more .
I've been a meagsquirt dealer way back when they were just starting up .
I've converted my share of cis to efi , and each time the difference was quite remarqable .
Still love the system , and if ever I get round to the second ur-q , it'll have a megasquirt
controlled propane injection .
A basic megasquirt could be build for a couple of 100$ , some junkyard parts and a lot of work .
Those were the fun day's .
Still have a few megasquirts left if anyone would like to experiment ....
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Redford
To: Patrick Carlier
Cc: Paul Ahvenainen ; audifans urq ; Keith Lloyd ; William Stedman
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [urq] ABT ignitionbox
--- Hi , I don't have a Chip or Knowledge to modify the ECU, but If better starts, and increased power, and the like are desired, I would recommend installing, Electronic Fuel Injection and Spark control of Some kind. I had someone install a , MegaSquirt system , in my '85 Urq WX. There are a few builders of MegaSquirt based systems out there and there is , 034, which has a similar system for sale. The difference in performance and power is Remarkable. It might be something to look into instead of dealing with Mods to the stock system. Megasquirt is an open type software and was developed for DIY ers.. , but as things went along , there became people who used the basic software and developed it and built complete hardware packages for sale. The "package" I had installed was from, diyautotune.com . I was going to use the , 034motorsport.com system but the person doing the work wanted to use the other Co. If you choose to, you can do your own programming with a PC laptop. That is what I wanted. Anyway, I thought I would just mention the alternative for the situation.
--- Take Care , ...Stephen H. Redford '85 Urq wx motor with MS electronic ECU (In Seattle,Wa)
On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Carlier wrote:
I can easily duplicate the chip , assuming it's an eprom , but apparantly it
won't work without severeal other parts .
Pat
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ahvenainen" <pahvenainen at korbel.com>
To: "William Stedman" <wnstedman at gmail.com>; "Keith" <spotatashleys at hotmail.com>
Cc: "audifans urq" <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] ABT ignitionbox
If anyone has an extra ABT or similar "chip" that will work with my otherwise stock 83WX, I would be interested.
Thanks: Paul Ahvenainen
-----Original Message-----
From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of William Stedman
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 7:34 AM
To: Keith
Cc: audifans urq
Subject: Re: [urq] ABT ignitionbox
Yes the stock computer can be chipped as I have one from my old 10v. And
some of the things are a Fast Start and Increased boost without running lean
Fast Start makes it so when you are starting the car it doesn't have to
crank over so many times before it fires up, Just hit the key for 1 second
and it fires up!
The addition of a zener diode will make it run lean at top end without
fuel distributor mods!
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Keith <spotatashleys at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pat
As I understand it, the stock ecu can not be "chipped" in the modern
sense. The only mod that can and is made is the addition of a zener diode
across a couple of pins (I don't know which but there are diagrams on the
net) which has the effect of preventing the ecu "seeing" full boost.
(normally if the ecu recognises that full boost is being exceeded it cuts
the ignition to prevent damage). Not "seeing" full boost means that if a
stiffer waste gate spring is used then greater boost pressure can be
achieved without the ignition being cut. The plus is that you can gain a
power increase, the downside is that this of course can put additional
unintended strains on components reducing longevity. I believe a 1bar
w/gate spring (standard is I think 0.8bar) and the zener diode mod provides
approx 220hp as opposed to the standard 200hp on a WR motor. Your friend
could swap it in to his daily driver but I am not sure he would see any
benefits without an accompanying stiffer wastegate spring but others may be
better able to advise on this.
Hope this helps.
All the best
Keith
'87 WR
-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Carlier
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:21 AM
To: 'audifans urq'
Subject: [urq] ABT ignitionbox
A friend of mine got himself a wrecked urquattro .
Strted to pull it apart , end he found out that the
ignition box under the glove box has a sticker on it ABT .
So he wants to kow what power gain this box could offer , and if he
can simlply swap it in his other urq wich is a very good daily driver .
I don't know but maybe someone on this list does ?
Pat
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