[V8] Oil Change woes!!! Filter stuck!

Sat Mar 26 23:10:17 EST 2005

I havent tried that I dont know if that would work I dont have 2 sets of
hands here today I could give that a shot tommrow and see what happens.
I dont have a air ratchet either. Thanks for the ideas nothing else I
will take it to <insert random lube joint> act as if nothing is wrong
and act as if I know nothing and let them think they broke it. Chances
are it was some retard at the previous lube joint that over torqued the
thing on there and screwed it up to begin with. I have no compassion
with <insert random lube joint>'s.

Thanks,
Greg Furstenwerth
93 V8 Q
North Bend, WA

Jeremy Ward wrote:

>Have you tried 'spinning' it off of there with your new socket powered by an air wratchet?  How about trying to apply force at an angle from the centerline of the filter as you 'spin your wheels'?  If you manage to pop the housing compleetly loose from the top plate, I think you could then work on removing the top plate...
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>Good luck man!
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>Regards,
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>- Jeremy
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>From: Greg Furstenwerth <slicerdicer at comcast.net>
>To: Jeremy Ward <jward at mti-interactive.com>; V8 at audifans.com <V8 at audifans.com>
>Sent: Sat Mar 26 18:45:28 2005
>Subject: Re: [V8] Oil Change woes!!!  Filter stuck!
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>Oops did not send this to the list. Anyway for all to see here it is
>what was said. My concern about drilling the hole through the filter is
>will the filter hold up to that kind of pressure or shred inside? I mean
>I dont want to drill a hole and have no filter at all that would just
>make it so there was no oil pressure so I really need to know if its
>been done by somebody. If it has been done by somebody with this filter
>and this way then I might be willing to give it a shot I just dont want
>to be screwed and have to tow it 10-15 miles to the nearest lube joint
>to have them try to figure out what to do with a shredded filter.
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>Thanks,
>Greg Furstenwerth
>93 V8 Q
>North Bend, WA
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>>Dang.  I understand what you are talking about, but can't picture how you might get a strap wrench around the upper half (no room).  Could you drill a hole through it and out the side at an angle?  If so, you could get a screw driver or something in there to give you some leverage...  But what a mess!
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Greg Furstenwerth <slicerdicer at comcast.net>
>>To: Jeremy Ward <jward at mti-interactive.com>
>>Sent: Sat Mar 26 17:51:02 2005
>>Subject: Re: [V8] Oil Change woes!!!  Filter stuck!
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>>Umm it spins it will physically spin but the top part where the lip
>>meets the bottom shaft is seperated so the top and bottom of the filter
>>all by itself is seperated. The seal is broken on the filter itself.
>>forget that its attached to a car at all.
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>>_____ <-- top of filter
>>--------- <-- metal lip
>>|       |
>>|       |
>>|       |
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>>Filter there forgive my craptastic ascii art the top of filter and metal
>>lip are seperated.
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>>North Bend is 31 miles east of seattle on I-90
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>>Thanks,
>>Greg Furstenwerth
>>93 V8 Q
>>North Bend, WA
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>>Jeremy Ward wrote:
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>>>Had a similar experience with the last oil change, but it finally gave way.  It was suggested that there wasn't enough oil to wet the gasket last time it was changed.  After wresteling with it, I got it off, but forgot to see if the old gasket was on the car or the filter...  BTW, 2 gaskets don't work better than one :-)
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>>>If you can muscle it off of there, you will probably be just fine.
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>>>Where is North Bend?  There is an Audi Club NW gathering in Burien every June.  Last year we had 6 V8s!  Hope to see you there this year :-)
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>>>Cheers,
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>>>- Jeremy 
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>>>To: V8 at audifans.com <V8 at audifans.com>
>>>Sent: Sat Mar 26 17:11:22 2005
>>>Subject: [V8] Oil Change woes!!!  Filter stuck!
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>>>This is the wierdest oil change I've ever done.  After buying the 30mm
>>>socket to get the oil filter off, and then fortunately I had a bunch of
>>>allen sockets I just bought from Sears to get the drain plug off...
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>>>Now the filter won't come out.  I was turning it, and turning it, and
>>>turning it and I still get resistance and the filter is going no where. 
>>>At first I thought GREAT, the filter was put on cross threaded, but
>>>after I kept turning it, we noticed that the upper part of the filter
>>>wasn't turning with the bottom part.  It appears that the filer has
>>>seperated and the bottom part is spinning independently of the top which
>>>is screwed into the car.  So, the natural next question is how the
>>>$&%*(#@ do get the friggin filter off???
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>>>Am I going to have to hack apart the filter and somehow get the
>>>top/internal piece off.  I figure it was over-torqued when put on, which
>>>broke the upper seal on the filter, so I'm not sure how to get the
>>>appropriate leverage once it is seperated. 
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>>>Utterly frusterated.  Anyone had this happen before and can possibly
>>>reccomend a solution to my dilemma???
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Greg Furstenwerth
>>>'93 V8 Q
>>>North Bend, WA
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