[V8] Why you stick a V8....

sdewitt at stx.rr.com sdewitt at stx.rr.com
Mon Feb 20 16:31:42 EST 2006


The current design for nuclear reactors dates back to the 1950's. There 
are better more recent designs, which all but eliminate most of the 
saftey concerns (nuclear waste, meltdown) etc. however the general 
public's view on nuclear power is still tarnished. But i guess when 
electricity hits 25 cents a KWH the public will start to sing a 
different note. 
Much like most americans still think modern diesel engines are the 
stink smelly oily rattle boxes of the 80's.

To keep this on topic, when is Audi going to release diesel models to 
the US?


----- Original Message -----
From: dsaad at icehouse.net
Date: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [V8] Why you stick a V8....
To: v8 at audifans.com

> 
> Agreed on internal combustion engines not going away anytime soon -
> But any solution that burns fossil fuel from any source is a dead 
> end. The
> simple fact is that if oil were as plentiful as ocean water, we 
> will still run
> out - or at least we would if we were still alive as a species 
> because the
> atmosphere can not take that much pollution.
> I think a better use for fossil oil in all its forms is for 
> manufacturing all
> the things made from it, as lubricants, etc. It could last a very 
> long time if
> we wern't burning it up as motor fuel.
> 
> Much as I hate to back nuclear (for safety reasons), I think the 
> only viable
> long term solution is to generate hydrogen directly from nuke 
> plants. From there
> we can pretty much use our present infrastructure system to 
> transport liquid
> fuel for end use much as we do now. The actual engines can be 
> converted piston
> engines, turbines, fuel cells, or who knows.
> I recently met a very smart engineer from the INEEL (Big nuke 
> research lab here
> in ID) whose job is to design the fuel for the next generation of 
> reactors. He
> painted a pretty rosy picture of what is in the pipe - but they 
> are still many
> years away. (incedently, we borrow heavily from the French for 
> this technology)
> I just wish we were pouring a billion dollars a day into this 
> research instead
> of dumping it on Iraq.
> 
> Dave
> 
> Quoting urq <urq at pacbell.net>:
> 
> > ... IMO there's too much investment in internal combustion 
> technology for it
> > to go away ... perhaps your car will run on Hydrogen in 30 years 
> ... I don't
> > know, but I'm not going to bemoan the demise of my cars too 
> soon.  Everyone
> > is so focused on oil ... there are so many other possibilities 
> ... alcohol
> > in some form, bio diesel ... I even hear that the USA might well 
> become the
> > next middle east as prices per barrel of oil go high enough to 
> make coal
> > liquefaction competitive (and there are other coal producing 
> areas outside
> > the middle east around the world).  Here's an article:
> >
> >     http://www.wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=6013
> >
> > ... I'm still a bit hesitant to plunk down $30K for a car 
> myself, but it is
> > all based on total costs and ROI ... That said, when my lotto 
> ticket pays
> > off I'm going right down to my Ford dealer!  :-)
> >
> > Steve B
> > San Jose, CA (USA)
> >
> > > I have a hard time even thinking about spending $30+K on a new 
> car, only
> > > to have
> > > the fuel become next to impossible to get before the warranty 
> runs out.
> > > There are more than just a few sane and knowledgable people 
> who say we are
> > > at
> > > peak oil right now.
> > > Add China and the rest of the developing world to the 
> consumption pie and
> > > you
> > > (we) have a problem.
> > > If the bonehead in chief succedes in starting a nuclear war in 
> Iran, we
> > > may be
> > > going back to burning cow chips for steam anyway.
> >
> >
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