[V8] Why you stick a V8....

[Ed Kellock]

As soon as the US decides to refine its diesel fuel supply to a higher
quality.

On 2/20/06, sdewitt at stx.rr.com <sdewitt at stx.rr.com> wrote:


To keep this on topic, when is Audi going to release diesel models to
> the US?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dsaad at icehouse.net
> Date: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [V8] Why you stick a V8....
> To: v8 at audifans.com
>
> >
> > Agreed on internal combustion engines not going away anytime soon -
> > But any solution that burns fossil fuel from any source is a dead
> > end. The
> > simple fact is that if oil were as plentiful as ocean water, we
> > will still run
> > out - or at least we would if we were still alive as a species
> > because the
> > atmosphere can not take that much pollution.
> > I think a better use for fossil oil in all its forms is for
> > manufacturing all
> > the things made from it, as lubricants, etc. It could last a very
> > long time if
> > we wern't burning it up as motor fuel.
> >
> > Much as I hate to back nuclear (for safety reasons), I think the
> > only viable
> > long term solution is to generate hydrogen directly from nuke
> > plants. From there
> > we can pretty much use our present infrastructure system to
> > transport liquid
> > fuel for end use much as we do now. The actual engines can be
> > converted piston
> > engines, turbines, fuel cells, or who knows.
> > I recently met a very smart engineer from the INEEL (Big nuke
> > research lab here
> > in ID) whose job is to design the fuel for the next generation of
> > reactors. He
> > painted a pretty rosy picture of what is in the pipe - but they
> > are still many
> > years away. (incedently, we borrow heavily from the French for
> > this technology)
> > I just wish we were pouring a billion dollars a day into this
> > research instead
> > of dumping it on Iraq.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Quoting urq <urq at pacbell.net>:
> >
> > > ... IMO there's too much investment in internal combustion
> > technology for it
> > > to go away ... perhaps your car will run on Hydrogen in 30 years
> > ... I don't
> > > know, but I'm not going to bemoan the demise of my cars too
> > soon.  Everyone
> > > is so focused on oil ... there are so many other possibilities
> > ... alcohol
> > > in some form, bio diesel ... I even hear that the USA might well
> > become the
> > > next middle east as prices per barrel of oil go high enough to
> > make coal
> > > liquefaction competitive (and there are other coal producing
> > areas outside
> > > the middle east around the world).  Here's an article:
> > >
> > >     http://www.wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=6013
> > >
> > > ... I'm still a bit hesitant to plunk down $30K for a car
> > myself, but it is
> > > all based on total costs and ROI ... That said, when my lotto
> > ticket pays
> > > off I'm going right down to my Ford dealer!  :-)
> > >
> > > Steve B
> > > San Jose, CA (USA)
> > >
> > > > I have a hard time even thinking about spending $30+K on a new
> > car, only
> > > > to have
> > > > the fuel become next to impossible to get before the warranty
> > runs out.
> > > > There are more than just a few sane and knowledgable people
> > who say we are
> > > > at
> > > > peak oil right now.
> > > > Add China and the rest of the developing world to the
> > consumption pie and
> > > > you
> > > > (we) have a problem.
> > > > If the bonehead in chief succedes in starting a nuclear war in
> > Iran, we
> > > > may be
> > > > going back to burning cow chips for steam anyway.
> > >
> > >
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