[V8] Another brake question . . . I know, I know. . .

Wed Mar 8 23:13:56 EST 2006

The V8 is the closest relative to the 200q20v, but shares many parts with
the 100, the 200 (both 20v and 10v), and even the 5000; these are all
considered the Type 44 body style.

The '91 200q20v and the 1990-1991 V8 were the only US cars to have UFOs
brakes, which are interchangeable between the two models.  So if this Big
Brake setup fits one, there should be no reason why it shouldn't fit the
other.

There is some pretty good info on the http://bira.org/ website with regards
to big brake upgrades.  This home-made setup FS on the marketplace sounds
very similar to the 'System 2 for UFO-equipped Vehicles' BIRA.org setup,
with even larger rotors (330mm vs. 320mm).

Your 17x7 ET35 wheels should work just fine, but may require a small spacer
if the MB caliper rubs on your wheel (not sure what offset the CLK430
runs...)  Also, make sure your hub-centric hubs are still making contact
with your hub-centric rims.  

The 7" wide rim is a bit wimpy for a 4,000lb, 240hp AWD beast.  Not to
mention the MAX tire width you will be able to run is 225mm and this would
be pushing it.  On a 7" wide rim vs. the stock 7.5" rim, the tire will be
inset from the fender lip by 6mm, which may not be too noticeable.

I ran 17x7.5 S4 Snowflake rims and a 225mm wide tire for a while, but wanted
a wider stance.  I am much happier with the esthetics of the 17x8 Speedlines
and 235mm tires and will probably try a 255mm wide tire on my next set.  I
even kicked my current setup out with a bit with a 12mm spacer for a little
extra bling :-)

http://www.myv8q.com/pics/jwV8-Ingo.jpg - Ingo took this picture of my car
when we took a road trip down the Oregon Coast in January.

I have learned a bunch from listening to the Q&A on this forum.  Chances are
if you have a question, others are wondering the same thing.  Ask away Dave,
and chances are someone has the answer.  :-) 

Cheers,

- Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
daves745t at optonline.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:25 AM
To: Ingo Rautenberg
Cc: Audifans V8
Subject: Re: [V8] Another brake question . . . I know, I know. . .

Kneale/Ingo - 
Sorry if I was coming off a bit 'thin-skinned' this morning.
My only excuse is that I hadn't finished my first cup of coffee.

My knowledge of Audis in general is limited - but growing
thanks to the members here.  So what is common 
knowledge for most with respect to similarities/differences 
of certain models, as well as the interchangability
of parts, is a struggle for me.

Ingo, should I take your reply to mean that the
bracket machined to modify the Merceds caliper to 
fit the 200q20v would not be any different for my V8?

I've had a set of 17s with the 35et in the garage
for a while, however, they are 7-in. wide, not 
7.5-in which seems to be much more common.
Would anyone think that could pose a problem?

Thanks as always.
-DaveM
90 Pearl

----- Original Message -----
From: Ingo Rautenberg <i.rautenberg at waratap.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:26 am
Subject: Re: [V8] Another brake question . . . I know, I know. . .

> I didn't think he was being sarcastic.  I think by definition that 
> if it
> fits on 200q20v with UFO's it fits on the V8 equipped with UFO 
> uprights -- 
> as these are the same.  Just that 17 inch wheels are required - 
> likely with
> minimum offset of ET35 as well...
> 
> Ingo
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <daves745t at optonline.net>
> To: "Kneale Brownson" <kneale at coslink.net>
> Cc: "Audifans V8" <V8 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [V8] Another brake question . . . I know, I know. . .
> 
> 
> > Kneale -
> > Hmmm . . . do I detect a bit of sarcasm in your reply?
> > :)  I understood what he's selling, thanks.
> >
> > I guess the real questions are these: (1) clearly, this
> > is not the typical 'big brake kit', but has anyone ever
> > heard of or used this type of conversion for Audis?
> > (2) He's machined a bracket so that it fit his 1991
> > 200tq20v, any idea if that same bracket would
> > work on my 1990 V8Q?
> >
> > -DaveM
> > 90 Pearl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at coslink.net>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 5:17 pm
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Another brake question . . . I know, I know. . .
> >
> > > He's selling a "big brake kit" for an Audi that uses MB rotors and
> > > calipers.
> > > It will work on models with UFOs.  Not on UFO cars that have been
> > > convertedto G60s.
> > >
> > > It requires 17" wheels be used.  The UFOs fit inside 15-inch 
> wheels.> >
> > > This will work on your V8 if it hasn't been converted to G60s and
> > > if you
> > > want to get larger wheels.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:24 AM 3/7/2006 -0500, daves745t at optonline.net wrote:
> > > >Did you guys happen to see the ad on Audifans re: a guy selling
> > > > a big brake kit for a MB CLK 430? Here's a little excerpt:
> > > >
> > > >"This kit was made by West Motorsports. This sale is for
> > > > a set of a used big brake kit. Will fit any UFO car. Mercedes
> > > > CLK 430 330mmx30mm rotor, Mercedes CLK 430 4 piston
> > > > calipers, machined braket, and mounting bolts."
> > > >
> > > >It was made specifically for a 200tq20v - would that just
> > > >be a bolt on for my 1990 V8Q?  Seems kinda cool . . .
> > > >what do you guys think?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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