[V8] track F/R and fun stuff.....:-)

Ron Wainwright ron_01056 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 18 13:39:14 EDT 2007


Scott, I know you post over on motorgeek
sometimes..have you seen this?
http://www.motorgeek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11425

 Just brows through it a bit & you'll see on page 3
haydn's reworking of the front suspension. There are
plenty of other pics of what he has in mind scattered
on the rest of the pages of his thread.
Not asking you to look at the whole thread....but take
a glance on page 3.

 What do you think?

 Ron

--- QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:

>  
> Anything is possible.  That sounds like it would
> *work* from strictly  a 
> geometry standpoint.  I tend to get a bit nervous in
> our litigeous  society to 
> reweld steering arms and redesign (possible failure)
> lower ball joint  
> attachments.  Al, I think all this is simpler, pick
> a target and chase it  with mods, 
> not pick a mod and chase the fix.  A lot of
> customers have have  had me do the 
> latter over the years.  
>  
> A given that the car is lowered means that a lot of
> surgery is required,  
> that may not yield as good a solution as targetting
> the *purpose* of  lowered.  I 
> got into this whole discussion because I saw front
> track being  discussed as 
> a possible solution to increase type 44 handling,
> great idea  IMO.  When I see 
> all that slop in the front of a type 44, and read
> with it,  suggestions of 
> ball joint modifications and steering arm
> modifications, I think  there are 
> better ways to get better handling.  Is what you
> propose  *possible*?  Sure.  I 
> just ask the more obvious question:  Is it 
> necessary? 
>  
> I just don't see lowering a type for *performance*
> as a given.  I  don't see 
> myself ever modifying a steering arm or lowering a
> ball joint as  solutions to 
> the problem of lowered bump steer issues... 
> Actually, I don't  see myself 
> even riding in one that has, thank you....
>  
> My .02
>  
> Scott J
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 4/18/2007 10:40:28 A.M. Central
> Standard Time,  
> allanvega at adelphia.net writes:
> 
> In the  spirit of furthering everyons understanding
> of there suspension 
> (myself  included), I am jumping back in on this
> thread.
> 
> Scott ,Jack and all.  Say one wants to still lower
> the car for what ever 
> reason (looks, low  center of gravity, already spent
> the money on the parts, 
> or  whatever).  And let say, one acknowledges the
> drastic affect this will  
> have on suspension components and handling, and
> would like to work around  
> that to find asolution. Can we have a discussion on
> this? After thinking  
> about this a little, and rereading previous posts on
> this matter, I   now see 
> your point with the sway bar and control arm issue. 
> I would  like to submit 
> an idea to you and the list, and would appreciate
> your, as  well as Jacks 
> feedback.  The solution to me seems to be relatively
>  simple. For how ever 
> much you lower the car, you drop the lower ball 
> joint, and tie rod arm. This 
> would effectively keep the suspension  relative to
> each other(i.e not change 
> the geometry)  this would also  take care of the
> swabar issue as well. 
> Dropping the steering arm would be  as simple as
> grinding away the old weld 
> on the strut tube, and sliding it  down, then re
> weld. Not sure if lowering 
> the ball joint mounting area is  possible, but it
> makes the most seance to 
> me. Maybe weld some kind of  bracket or something.
> Do you agree with this in 
> theory? I know I haven't  addressed the front axle
> slope, but this is what I 
> come up with so  far.Al
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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