[V8] V8 Digest, Vol 46, Issue 5

Mon Aug 6 07:01:56 EDT 2007

Thought I would  chime in here , since I have already installed the rear 
sway bar( the stock 92 s4 rear bar) .
My setup prior to installing the rear bar was 1" H&R spacers up front,. H&R 
race springs all around and Koni sports.
I then added the rear spacers (1" also) and the handling  improved further.
When I added the rear sway bar, the handling worsened.
 There is I nice bending exit of I84 here in CT ( exit 18 west to be exact) 
The speed at which I was able to take this corner was slower with the bar, 
than without.

 I think Audi tried to make up for the lack of a rear bar, by makeing the 
rear track wider than the front from the factory. (Cost savings maybe?)
 Anyway,  In order for me to get the most from this bar, I will either  have 
to get a larger front bar( which there is none), or install 17mm rear 
spacers opposed to the 25mm ones on there now. This will even out the trac. 
I guess i could remove the rears all together and see what happens there 
first. Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean cole" <v8coupe at gmail.com>
To: <v8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [V8] V8 Digest, Vol 46, Issue 5

> Wow that didn't work well on the last email.
>
> What I was trying to say was.  I live in MN where pot holes (and I guess
> bridge collapses, joking here) are a common thing.  I don't want 800 lbs
> springs as it most likely would result in bent or broken something.
> Remember by stiffening the springs all shock loads are increased to each
> component in the system.  A system is only as strong as it's weakest link
> and frankly that is the sub-frame in the front and track arms in the rear.
>
> I know I am building a car that will be a compromise of stiffness, 
> handling
> and ride quality, but that's all engineering is a series of compromises to
> get the best results allowed be a set limitations and restrictions.  My 
> car
> might not be the fast round a track (hell it ain't a 4.2L 5-speed), but it
> will suit my needs, wants and desires.  If it turns out I'm wrong I can go
> back, that's what's nice I do sort of have an undo button.
>
> Sean
>
>
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 01:10:52 -0500
>> From: "Sean cole" <v8coupe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [V8] Rear Sway Bars
>> To: "Ron Wainwright" <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: v8 at audifans.com, "Carol, Dave, and Zach Weiss"
>>         <cdzweiss at charter.net>
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>> I want stiffer front as well.  I know It's not needed for a daily driver,
>> but neither is a set of wild cams P&P'd heads, high compression, 6-speed
>> convo, and daul 2.5" engine back exhaust.
>>
>> I think I might have figured out a way to do what I want that might make
>> it
>> reasonable for most on here.  I won't exactly spill the beans till I know
>> it
>> can be done.  I would like something like 30mm front with 28mm rear with
>> the
>> option of adjustment.  I also don't want
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/07, Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I got 800lb rears & 750lb fronts as far as spring
>> > rates go. I'll abuse the single adjustable Koni's for
>> > a year & then opt for the dual adjustable units.
>> >
>> > & saying you have a RSB on a car that didn't come
>> > with one just sounds k00l...that's
>> > why I'm doing it ;-)
>> > But seriously I'm adding one to tighten up the rear
>> > end. With the 5spd V8 at least the rear end has a
>> > tendancy to step out a bit. I just want to control it
>> > a bit.
>> > There are 2 options as far as RSB'S go..17mm OE bar,
>> > or 28mm adjustable Hapersized bar. The 28mm bar is
>> > made by a Urs4/6 car enthusiast.
>> >
>> > Ron
>> >
>> > --- "Carol, Dave, and Zach Weiss"
>> > <cdzweiss at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hey, guys, gotta ask-- will the new springs
>> > > (assuming much bigger increase
>> > > in rear rates than fronts) and bigger front bar
>> > > change the balance that much
>> > > that you have to add a rear bar?  What are the new
>> > > spring rates going to be?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > (way behind on my 4.2 and interior swap)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sean Cole wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > > So I know there are part junkies on here.  So any
>> > > one have the larger
>> > >
>> > > 4.2Lfront sway bar they are willing to part with?
>> > > I'm looking to find
>> > >
>> > > one to
>> > >
>> > > install on my 3.6L car with some Koni's and vogtland
>> > > springs to complete the
>> > >
>> > > front with the 92 S4 rear sway bar set-up and
>> > > koni/vogtland setup in the
>> > >
>> > > rear.
>> > >
>> > > <<
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ron Wainwright wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > > All so finished gathering all the suspension parts
>> > > for my swap. 95.5 S6A rear sway bar setup, camber
>> > > links, 2Benn rear coilovers, front "A" arm bushings,
>> > > wheel bearings, ect, ect, ect...front's the
>> > > same....28mm front 4.2 swaybar, 2Benn front
>> > > coilovers,
>> > > 2Benn Revolution camber/caster plates, Porsche Big
>> > >
>> > > Reds, subframe bushings, ect, ect, ect....
>> > >
>> > > <<
>> > >
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