[V8] Timing Belt = Half Time Show

[Ron Wainwright]

Hey guy's, you know I should have really done a full
writeup on the procedure.
I'll get a full detailed step by step when I get back
from Georges this weekend.
I'll forward it too Kent, & he can add it to the
KB..k00l Kent?

I allso will have a full blow by blow..W/pics of the
3.6 to 4.2 engine swap :-)

 Ron

--- Scott Simmons <indischrot at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tony,
> 
>     No personal attacks were intended in regards to
> the KB.  I truly 
> appreciate the time and effort that went into its
> creation and it has 
> helped me immensely.
> 
>     Oh yes, those inner nuts were a doozey.  One of
> those "Okay, I can 
> sort of see them, now how the hell am I to get to
> them?" things.  It 
> makes me wonder how the belt was changed originally.
>  There's no signs 
> that the bumper had been removed previously.  Had I
> had a tool to remove 
> the fan clutch, I probably would not have removed
> the front end either.
> 
>     I removed the two wires from the alternator and
> moved the entire 
> cover to another bay.  I'm going to clean up those
> wires and clean out 
> the alternator while its off.  Had an oil leak
> dripping onto it until 
> recently.
> 
>     Any suggestions from the rest of y'all on how to
> get those lines 
> back on?  I've heard you're not supposed to use the
> bolt to "pull them" 
> onto the radiator but I see no other way.....
> 
>     Also, the harmonic balancer and the crank pulley
> came off at once 
> and it appeared that they were one unit until
> reasoning dictated 
> otherwise.  They're pretty stuck together.  I have a
> feeling I'm going 
> to need to separate them in order to get the belt on
> and tensioned?  I 
> didn't pay much attention at the time (and car's
> locked up in the shop) 
> but is the crankshaft keyed to the pulley?  I would
> imagine it is so one 
> could determine TDC.
> 
>     My chrome didn't seem to want to come off with
> just those two 
> phillips removed and I didn't want to force it.  Do
> all those other nuts 
> along the underside hold it on as well?  OR:  by off
> do you mean 
> completely off the car, or just off the rest of the
> body? 
> 
>     Going back and looking at the KB again, I can
> see that the right cam 
> shifted for you as well.  It's hard to make out
> details on my printed copy.
> 
>     Yes, the second bolt breaking was my own stupid
> fault.  Both times I 
> was getting in a rush and not paying proper
> attention to how much torque 
> I was applying.  I might consider going back to the
> oil pump and 
> replacing the seal that's in there (I paid for it,
> why not?) that I 
> forgot about and properly torquing those allen head
> bolts (I think 
> they're over-torqued right now). 
> 
>     The water pump has been removed a couple times. 
> The Torx bolts are 
> in there tight with a 1/4" ratchet (4.5" long) but
> I'm scared of that 
> thing leaking once the sucker's back together.  Oy.
> 
>     I am not planning on dicking with the camshaft
> sprockets (i.e. 
> loosening them for tensioning).  As long as I ensure
> a tight belt 
> between the sprockets and on the non-tensioned side,
> is this going to 
> cause any ill effects?
> 
> Another day in paradise,
> Scott Simmons
> 
> P.S. ~ once again, folks, thanks for the help. 
> 
> Tony and Lillie wrote:
> 
> > I wrote that article. It was very quick, and from
> someone a little too 
> > experienced to remember all the little details
> that really come up. 
> > Kent was actually kind enough to put it in the KB
> for me. So, with 
> > that in mind, I'm glad fdor the added insight.
> I'll go back and add 
> > some details you pointed out, and have it updated.
> >
> > As for the cam turning, that is somewhat normal.
> The cams want to line 
> > up where the least tension is on them, which is
> not always #1 TDC.
> >
> > Don't know about the crank lock tool. Mine was
> homemade. I only used 
> > it to take off the crank bolt, then set it aside.
> >
> > I didn't use the crank lock tools either. I almost
> had the set 
> > finished that I was building, but ended up in too
> much of a hurry to 
> > finish them.
> >
> > My wiring on the front end is significantly
> different from the 
> > factory, so I couldn't use it as a reference
> point. I've relayed all 
> > the front lights and added 100W High beams.
> >
> > Those two nuts on the front bumper - oops. I
> forgot they are on some 
> > cars still. Most have had them removed and thrown
> out. They are 
> > unnecessary. If you use the tow hook, it attaches
> directly to the car.
> >
> > Glad you figured out the timing dots. I've taken
> some pics since then 
> > (didn't use them for that) and I'll add those as
> well.
> >
> > The chrome trim comes off with two philliips
> screws on each fender. 
> > There is a pic in that writeup
> >
> > Also, I didn't remove the trans lines, as shown in
> the pics.
> >
> > As for the alternator, I didn't remove it from the
> cover. Just put ot 
> > to the side with the right TB cover.
> >
> > The radiator support should go back in fairly
> easily. I'm sure it's 
> > not as easy as I remember, but I'm no He-Man, and
> I was able to do the 
> > job myself. Not to say that a helper wouldn't
> have, well, helped a 
> > great deal at times.
> >
> > As for miller time, I've consumed plenty of
> Alcohol (Jack or everclear 
> > for me) to have enough patience for completing a
> project. Just don't 
> > have so much you forget things ;-) I'll have to
> say the second bolt 
> > would have been about the end of my patience.
> Thankfully, I had no 
> > such problems, and was able to get mine done in
> two short evenings as 
> > a result.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Tony Hoffman
> >
> >
> 
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