[V8] Alignment specs

Tue May 22 12:08:33 EDT 2007

Hah!!  Cat condos... I follow precisely!

Back in a previous life when I worked at NTW (nee NTB), I would freak at
how some of those bozos would jack up a car -- the precarious postion
you describe is tame by comparison!  (Yet management wouldn't let the
guys use air, even on steel wheels... Understandable, but for a guy like
me who'd been using air for years before, it was a huge double
standard... But I digress)

Until a month or two ago when I shelved it for a bit, I was undertaking
an all-out search for a tire machine and balancer, but the space issue
hasn't gotten any better, and for both machines $1500 is really the bare
minimum cash outlay... And at that you have to make sure each machine
can do the larger "contemporary" wheel sizes and, in my case, run on 110
amp system.

Now, once I build my three car, two lift, fully-equipped garage, I'll
revisit!  Just have to put three kids through 12 grades and college
first.

-dc-

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:57 AM
> To: Coleman, David
> Cc: d saad; v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] Alignment specs
> 
> Well, at the time I wasn't concerned at all really, as it 
> looked like they hit the jack points okay, though the cups on 
> those jacks were quite large, like coffee cup saucers so I 
> wondered if they were hitting anything besides the jack 
> point, but ultimately... well, let's put it this way, I 
> haven't even been bothered enough about it to go inspect it.
> 
> It was just funny to see it in the air like that and when I 
> read about the other Dave's concern about having anyone touch 
> his car, I identified with that and it reminded me of the 
> tire experience, because I was wondering the whole time how 
> much expense and trouble it would be to have my own tire machine.
> 
> Where the heck I'd put it is a whole 'nother deal.  As it is, 
> I have stacks of bagged tires/wheels in the corners of my 
> living room with Indian... er Native American blankets thrown 
> over them, serving quite nicely as cat condos.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> On 5/22/07, Coleman, David <David.Coleman at blackrock.com> wrote:
> > OK I'm going to sound a bit like a doofus, but what was the major 
> > concern about the way these guys lifted the car?  The "triangulated"
> > tippy-ness, or something more inherent?
> >
> > <Anonymous>
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Kinda reminds me of Saturday when I went to Peerless tire 
> to have my 
> > > summer tires mounted in the Avant.
> > >
> > > I pulled up next to one of those hydraulic things that 
> lifts right 
> > > off the ground about 3 feet, not knowing what they had 
> going on and 
> > > thinking they would move it to that before doing the tires.
> > >
> > > I left the keys in the ignition and walked inside for a minute or 
> > > two and when I came back out, my car was completely off 
> the ground 
> > > on big hydraulic jacks, one lifting at each front jack point, the 
> > > 3rd under the rear diff.
> > >
> > > Sweet.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > On 5/22/07, d saad <dsaad at icehouse.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I always print the specs from the bently and hand them to
> > > the tech at
> > > > the tire shop.
> > > > I am now starting to go back over their work and re-tighten
> > > bolts to
> > > > factory specs. It does not matter how many times you ask - they 
> > > > are going to do what they always do. If they over or 
> under tighten 
> > > > important parts, they may slip or even break.
> > > > I still have to
> > > > stand there while they put my car on the rack for a tire
> > > rotation to
> > > > make sure the fool does not smash in the floor pan. This is the 
> > > > one area where I can not DIY - and I hate it. You are totally
> > > at the mercy
> > > > of some idiot who just learned the trade this week.
> > > >
> > > > If they ruined a set of
> > > > tires, I would not be bashful in asking for replacements.
> > > >
> > > > And -
> > > > to partially answer your question - are your sub-frame
> > > bushings good,
> > > > and bolts properly torqued?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did many new front suspension (and rear) pieces so an 
> > > > > alignment
> > > > was in
> > > > > order.  1,000 miles later I'm really wearing my front
> > > > tires on the inner
> > > > > edges.  Neg camber problem.   Car goes down
> > > > the road straight with no
> > > > > pulls
> > > > > what so ever.  I pull
> > > > out the alignment measurements on the print out and
> > > > > all seem in
> > > > spec.   Then I look at the Car model and it says 90 Quattro!
> > > > >
> > > > They aligned the V8 on 90 specs.  Interestingly only 
> one front is
> > > > > 'technically' out of proper spec (and the 2 rears
> > > slightly) and the
> > > > other
> > > > > front just in, but even it is noticeably worn.  Tires and
> > > > rims are stock.
> > > > > Does any one have a preferred alignment spec
> > > > other than in the middle of
> > > > > the specified ranges for the V8?
> > > > > thx
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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