[V8] Alignment specs

Tue May 22 15:38:53 EDT 2007

First off, if they don't put up the extensions, and hit the lift points,
they just lift the car by whatever is hanging lowest. They will cave in
the floor pan, (happened) bend up the cross member (happened) bend up the
exhaust (happened).

Then if monkey boy uses a floor jack, there
are not many places you can safely lift a V8 without damage. Basically,
you have the designated lift points. If they lift by the tranny or
crossmember - which seem to be favorites - you will have some serious
damage.

My ford owners manual says in great big letters to
never lift by the differentials. Have you ever noticed how many trucks
leak oil where the axle tubes attach to the diff? GM trucks have a problem
with axle seals blowing out. I am sure this is why. These are simply not
designed as lift points and cannot take the stress. If you want to lift
the front of a V8 with a floor jack, the only place I would do it is on
the sub-frame rear bolt head.

These guys do serious damage to
their customers cars every day - but the customer never finds out until
something fails down the road.

Dave

> OK
I'm going to sound a bit like a doofus, but what was the major
>
concern about the way these guys lifted the car?  The
"triangulated"
> tippy-ness, or something more
inherent?
> 
> <Anonymous>
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Kinda reminds me of Saturday when I went to Peerless tire to
>> have my summer tires mounted in the Avant.
>>
>> I pulled up next to one of those hydraulic things that lifts
>> right off the ground about 3 feet, not knowing what they had
>> going on and thinking they would move it to that before
doing
>> the tires.
>>
>> I left the keys
in the ignition and walked inside for a
>> minute or two and
when I came back out, my car was completely
>> off the ground
on big hydraulic jacks, one lifting at each
>> front jack
point, the 3rd under the rear diff.
>>
>> Sweet.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On 5/22/07, d saad
<dsaad at icehouse.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I always print the specs from the bently and hand them
to
>> the tech at
>> > the tire shop.
>> > I am now starting to go back over their work and
re-tighten
>> bolts to
>> > factory specs. It
does not matter how many times you ask - they are
>> > going
to do what they always do. If they over or under tighten
>>
> important parts, they may slip or even break.
>> > I
still have to
>> > stand there while they put my car on the
rack for a tire
>> rotation to
>> > make sure the
fool does not smash in the floor pan. This is the one
>> >
area where I can not DIY - and I hate it. You are totally
>> at
the mercy
>> > of some idiot who just learned the trade this
week.
>> >
>> > If they ruined a set of
>> > tires, I would not be bashful in asking for
replacements.
>> >
>> > And -
>>
> to partially answer your question - are your sub-frame
>>
bushings good,
>> > and bolts properly torqued?
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>>
> >
>> > >
>> > > I did many new
front suspension (and rear) pieces so an alignment
>> > was
in
>> > > order.  1,000 miles later I'm really wearing my
front
>> > tires on the inner
>> > > edges.
 Neg camber problem.   Car goes down
>> > the road straight
with no
>> > > pulls
>> > > what so
ever.  I pull
>> > out the alignment measurements on the
print out and
>> > > all seem in
>> > spec.
  Then I look at the Car model and it says 90 Quattro!
>> >
>
>> > They aligned the V8 on 90 specs.  Interestingly
only one front is
>> > > 'technically' out of proper spec
(and the 2 rears
>> slightly) and the
>> >
other
>> > > front just in, but even it is noticeably
worn.  Tires and
>> > rims are stock.
>> >
> Does any one have a preferred alignment spec
>> > other
than in the middle of
>> > > the specified ranges for the
V8?
>> > > thx
>> > > Mike
>>
> >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
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