[V8] squealing serp belt oddity

[Ron Wainwright]

Oh man..this means I gotta change the crank pully on
George's car..<frustrated>

 Ron

--- Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, maybe there's the rub.  The 5 speed at highway
> speeds will turn  
> the motor at higher revs than the automatics, and so
> as not to  
> overdrive the accessories, has a smaller damper. 
> The 4.2, which (in  
> unmodified form) will not rev as freely/ high as the
> 3.6 automatic  
> gets the largest (overdrive, if you will) pulley.
> Hmm.
> 
> My Euro ETKA 6 is corrupted on my PC, so I can't
> check --  I wonder  
> if there is any difference in pulleys with the 4.2
> 6-speed vs. the  
> 4.2 automatic cars...
> 
> Ingo
> 
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Scott Simmons wrote:
> 
> > That's what I assumed, but what difference does 1
> inch make?  I  
> > understand under and overdrive pulleys, but
> they're usually  
> > different by a large margin.
> >
> > *shrug*
> >
> > ~Scott S.
> >
> > Ingo Rautenberg wrote:
> >
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> The ONLY difference I can see is that each has a
> different part  
> >> No.  for the front dampener/pully assembly. 
> Perhaps Ron can  
> >> measure the  various ones he has to confirm. If I
> had to guess,  
> >> the 5 speed likely  has the smallest diameter and
> the 4.2 has the  
> >> largest diameter.
> >>
> >> Ingo
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Coleman, David
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That question was keeping me up last night as
> well -- but the  
> >>> car's  under a cover, and I was just too ding
> dang tired to  
> >>> uncover and  scour around for an answer.
> >>>
> >>> I'm guessing the different trans requires a
> different AC or   
> >>> alternator mount configuration, moving the
> pulley closer inward.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com]  
> >>>> On  Behalf Of
> >>>> Scott Simmons
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:04 AM
> >>>> To: urq
> >>>> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [V8] squealing serp belt oddity
> >>>>
> >>>> Why is there a difference between auto and
> manual?  The  
> >>>> difference of
> >>>> 30mm isn't much.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> urq wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> TFA indicates the following lengths:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    PT Automatic  - 2460mm
> >>>>>    PT Manual     - 2433mm
> >>>>>    ABH Automatic - 2480mm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HTH!
> >>>>> Steve B
> >>>>> San José, CA (USA)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com]  
> >>>>> On  Behalf
> >>>>
> >>>> Of
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ron Wainwright
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:09 PM
> >>>>> To: Coleman, David
> >>>>> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [V8] squealing serp belt oddity
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not sure. They looked the same when I was
> doing
> >>>>> George's swap. I think I used the 4.2 pully in
> any
> >>>>> event.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But find out which pully you have Dave.
> >>>>> & not sure if the 3.6 too 4.2 Auto belts are
> the
> >>>>> same...but I do know the Manual 3.6 belt is
> shorter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ron
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- "Coleman, David"
> <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there an easy way to tell the pulleys
> (3.6, 4.2,
> >>>>>> manual, automatic)
> >>>>>> apart?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I still have a pulley on my old motor; I'll
> have to
> >>>>>> run out to see if
> >>>>>> it's still torqued down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Ron Wainwright
> [mailto:ron_01056 at yahoo.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:00 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Coleman, David
> >>>>>>> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [V8] squealing serp belt oddity
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So if he used the 3.6 pully from you'r old
> 3.6
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> motor
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> than you need the Manual belt.
> >>>>>>> Conti part#, 6K2433.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ron
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- "Coleman, David"
> <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alignment double and triple checked.   And
> every
> >>>>>>>> pulley spins freely.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Interesting note on the belt size... I
> believe I
> >>>>>>>> have the right size, as
> >>>>>>>> the first one I got was too big.  I thought
> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> due to the crank
> >>>>>>>> pulley size difference between 3.6 and 4.2.
> >>>>>>>> Perhaps there's a smaller
> >>>>>>>> one still, the one for the 5-speed?  Does
> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> there are three
> >>>>>>>> different belt applications for the V8?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regarding the above, by the way, I believe
> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> 
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