[V8] Steering questions
Dave Saad
dsaad at icehouse.net
Wed Apr 23 13:06:48 PDT 2008
They usually have the hose repaired within 24 hours of receipt.
Shipping is the time consumer. You can send it P1 overnight, but it
will triple the cost. Hose rebuild was around $70 each as I recall.
Maybe it was $70 with 5 day shipping.
On the leaking rack, the reason I put the filter in mine is a
rebuilder told me the cause of failure is gunk in the oil. Sure
enough, if you look at the old oil, you will see what looks like
pencil eraser rubbings. Keep the oil clean, and the boot tight, and
it will last a long time. The filter helps here. It is hard to
actually flush the system, but relatively easy to drain the tank
every few months. (I use a vacuum pump) After a while you will clean
it out. Besides, you have 5 gallons of oil to get rid of! I am not
really sure how far they usually go, but mine is still dry at about
160K miles. I did replace a torn boot on it a while back. Not sure
how long it was torn, but it lets in a lot of dirt and that is bad
for sealing surfaces.
It would probably work to order the boot and install it while the
hoses are out for rebuild. The other big issue would be the tie rod
ends.
Dave
On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Scott Simmons wrote:
> I've tried local industrial outlets for equivalents, but I'll keep
> trying.
>
> The rack most probably leaks already but it doesn't ever reach the
> ground and I'm not going to be investing in a new rack nor the work
> hours to change it on a car this vintage---especially at the low
> "failure level" at which the rack is currently operating.
>
> I'm curious about flushing because there is some Mobil Syn ATF
> mixed in with the Pentosin that helped stop leaking at the rack.
> Is it safe to assume that most of the fluid will be drained out
> through the pump, resevoir, and lines?
>
> To get all the lines rebuilt, how much does Spokane cost and how
> many days turn-around? Starting this project leaves me without a
> car (and wife growls at the idea of car sharing) so it'd have to be
> quick.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott S.
>
> Dave Saad wrote:
>
>> I bought a 5 gallon bucket of Chevron RYKON 32 mineral hydraulic
>> oil. If you experience lots of days under say 10 degrees F, then
>> you might want to think about RYKON 16. Other than that, I see no
>> problems at all with this oil. The 32 weight is fine, it just
>> takes a few seconds to loosen up on a really cold day. This oil
>> is available everywhere - try a heavy equipment dealer.
>>
>> Having a big bucket of oil makes the flushing out real simple too.
>> I made the steering return hose extra long and located an
>> automatic transmission cooler inline filter (generic part from
>> NAPA) over the A/ C dryer canister. I drained the system every
>> few months until the oil stayed clean - which it has been for a
>> long time now. I replaced the first filter after about a year,
>> the second will probably last the life of the car.
>>
>> The pressure hoses are probably all going to fail. You may as
>> well do them at once. Spokane hose is great, but be sure they
>> weld on new hose barbs. The repair will fail if they don't.
>> They know about this, but remind them anyway. Their service and
>> turnaround time is great.
>>
>> SInce you are this far in, I would recommend taking a hard look
>> at the steering rack too. If it is leaking, have it rebuilt.
>> It probably needs a boot and replacing it now may save you a
>> rack rebuild later. It is a PITA job, but you will already have
>> the hydraulic lines off. Having done this job myself, the trick
>> is to have enough long extensions for your ratchet that you can
>> take the hose union bolts off from the passenger side wheel
>> well. The other thing I did was to remove both ignition coils
>> and the fuel lines by the right coil.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 1:04 AM, Scott Simmons wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to be resealing my steering pump here soon and had a few
>>> questions:
>>>
>>> 1) I was thinking of having the lines rebuilt/sealed "while I'm in
>>> there." What are Spokane's prices and turn-around times?
>>>
>>> 2) What's the best way to flush the system after putting
>>> everything back
>>> together?
>>>
>>> 3) Where's the cheapest place to buy Pentosin (or equal) fluid on
>>> the
>>> internet? There are no local outlets.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott S.
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