[V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
JOHN DODD
jidodd at shaw.ca
Wed Dec 10 10:21:40 PST 2008
Dave,just to see if I get this right,even using a harness the sound will be really bad ?
I agree that is not too great to start with ,but I was hoping that at least it will be about the same.
I just want out of it the hands free calling and a CD player.I have a decent system for the house anyway.
I'll try the SONY MEXBT2600 and let you know.My rear speakers /amplifiers are in need of some capacitors,therefore I do not expect miracles.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Head <v8q at bellsouth.net>
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
To: JOHN DODD <jidodd at shaw.ca>
Cc: Scott Phillips <Scottp at ippe.com>, v8 at audifans.com
> Before everyone goes marching out to match line levels... The
> output of
> a Bose head unit is NOT a simple line level left and right
> output of pos
> and neg. It is a blended output of left and right AND front to
> back that
> requires a specific 'decoupler' to match up to the individual
> amps. Even
> with the correct device the quality is not good. I've yet to
> hear one
> I've even liked for talk radio...
> Added to this is the fact that the stock speakers are absolutely
> nothing
> to write home about - and the newest ones are 15 years old for a 93.
> I like Bose - I've had 101s, 201s, 301s, 901s and currently have
> a set
> of AM5s at home. I have 2 V8s with perfectly working Bose
> systems and
> the system still sucks. The bass is way too high and muddy. You
> only
> start getting decent sound out of it when its cranked to nearly
> earsplitting levels with the bass dialed way back and the treble
> turned up.
>
> Reality is the only 'right way' to do this is to chuck the
> ENTIRE
> system, bypass the wiring and run everything new with at least
> 14 guage
> wiring. Go with Infinity Kappa and/or MB Quart. Add a sub if you
> want,
> amps too. Drop kick the crappy diversity antenna system and if
> you don't
> have a factory electric rip out the analog cell antenna which is
> already
> useless and put a nice one in there.
> Then select a decent head unit and call it a day.
>
> Dave Head
>
> JOHN DODD wrote:
> > Is there any use to hook anything to the line outputs if I use
> the harness ?( I have no plans for a sub,too old for that )
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Scott Phillips <Scottp at ippe.com>
> >
> > Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 9:42 pm
> >
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
> >
> > To: JOHN DODD <jidodd at shaw.ca>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Yup.. and I too bought the reverse wiring kit.. I
> >
> >> installed a Porsche
> >
> >> CR-210 (98 911) radio in mine. Pict attached. And I
> kept
> >
> >> all the Bose
> >
> >> stuff too..
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Scott
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >> From: JOHN DODD [mailto:jidodd at shaw.ca]
> >
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:39 PM
> >
> >> To: Scott Phillips
> >
> >> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >
> >> Subject: Re: RE: RE: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Hi Scott
> >
> >> I got it sort of figured out after I posted.It's the
> same
> >
> >> output as you
> >
> >> send to a sub.
> >
> >> In the meantime I found out that there is a Metra harness
> >
> >> available for
> >
> >> our car and in theory it should be really easy to do it by
> >
> >> crimping to
> >
> >> it the wires from the new stereo.Any idea if it was tried ?
> >
> >> thanks
> >
> >> John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >> From: Scott Phillips <Scottp at ippe.com>
> >
> >> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 9:59 pm
> >
> >> Subject: RE: RE: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
> >
> >> To: JOHN DODD <jidodd at shaw.ca>
> >
> >
> >>> John,
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> You're sort of correct.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> With the bose system in any bose equipped car, the factory
> >
> >> radio
> >
> >>> uses line level output and sends that signal to the amps to
> be
> >
> >>> amplified. As long as you re-create that signal to the amp's
> >
> >>> they don't care where its coming from.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> So you will NOT use the new decks "speaker" outputs they are
> >
> >>> already "high level", but you will need to make sure that
> the
> >
> >>> new deck as front AND rear line level outputs (RCA jacks).
> >
> >>> You'll then use a set of RCA patch cables with one end cut
> off
> >
> >>> and those wires to connect to the Audi's stock wiring. In
> >
> >>> addition to that the Stock deck provided power to turn on
> the
> >
> >>> amps, you'll need the "Remote" - (a blue wire typically) on
> >
> >> the
> >
> >>> new deck to tie into the Audi's wireing to give that
> >
> >> same
> >
> >>> power back to the amps so that they do turn on.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> I do have a wiring diagram, but you do too (if you still
> have
> >
> >>> the stock radio) it's a sticker on the top of the factory
> >
> >> radio.
> >
> >>> if you dont have it LMK and I'll send a copy over.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Scott
> >
> >
> >>> ________________________________
> >
> >
> >>> From: JOHN DODD [mailto:jidodd at shaw.ca]
> >
> >>> Sent: Mon 12/8/2008 4:35 PM
> >
> >>> To: Scott Phillips
> >
> >>> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: RE: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> Hi Scott
> >
> >>> to see if I get this right, the line level output from the
> new
> >
> >>> stereo is the output that goes to the speakers normally ?
> >
> >>> Also is there a schematic for the original bose so I can
> >
> >> figure
> >
> >>> out the assisgnment for each wire ?
> >
> >
> >>> thanks
> >
> >>> John
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >>> From: Scott Phillips <Scottp at ippe.com>
> >
> >>> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008 7:05 am
> >
> >>> Subject: RE: [V8] planning a new stereo upgrade
> >
> >>> To: John Dodd <jidodd at shaw.ca>, v8 at audifans.com
> >
> >
> >>>> John,
> >
> >
> >>>> You can change the deck no problem (and keep the Bose
> >
> >> speakers and
> >
> >>>> amps). To do this you will need to use "Line level output" (RCA
> >
> >>>> Connectors) as the feeds to the Bose. One connector to each
> >
> >>> amp. Also
> >
> >>>> Don't forget the Blue Remote wire on the new deck will be
> >
> >>> needed
> >
> >>>> to turn
> >
> >>>> on the Bose Amps.
> >
> >
> >>>> Good Luck!
> >
> >
> >>>> Scott P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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