[V8] Subject: heater core?

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 11:04:40 PST 2008 

I've had that happen on two cars.  I used some coat hanger wire and bent an
M to hook over the to side pieces that anchored the plastic rod that is cut
in half and then hooked the spring over the dip in the middle of the M.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Woodbury [mailto:rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:48 AM
> To: 'Ed Kellock'; kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; 
> v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> 
> 
> Its on the upper end.  The place where the spring fastens to 
> the door is intact.
> 
> I have bought a pair of angled needle nose pliers that are 
> long enough to reach all the way up inside the recirc 
> box...so I CAN get all the way in. Now the fun part will be 
> to hook the spring and then pull it our while holding the 
> door open.  At least I think it will be nasty.
> 
> Chilly outside, too, of course, and the garage is still not 
> emptied out for cars or mechanical adventures.
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:07 PM
> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; kneale at coslink.net; 
> armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> 
> Is the plastic mounting point that the spring cut through on 
> he door itself or on the other end where there is about an 
> inch-long plastic rod that the spring loops over?
> 
> Ed
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Roger Woodbury
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:00 AM
> > To: kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I am in the process of doing this nasty little job.  I
> > have found that the spring is intact and in excellent 
> > condition.  The door is open, and the end of the spring cut 
> > through the plastic mounting point.  
> > 
> > I am not built for this job.  I am 5'9" tall and weigh
> > something in the neighborhood of 230...think of someone built 
> > like a Welsh coal miner, and you have the picture.  I have 
> > fairly short fingers and pretty thick hands so this is beyond 
> > being an entertaining project.
> > 
> > Did you mean that the door itself will come out easily?  I
> > can see where there is carpet that was glued to the back of 
> > the door and that has come off, or maybe was pulled off at 
> > some point?  IF the door can come off then I will be able to 
> > put the spring back in place although I am not sure how I 
> > will secure the end of the spring.  The plastic arms that the 
> > mounting point straddles has holes in it a bit further in, 
> > and I am wondering if I could just hook the end of the spring 
> > around that point and then bring it down to the door?  It 
> > would require stretching out the spring about 1/2-3/4" I 
> > think, but the spring would never cut through all that 
> > plastic and I think it would take quite a long time for the 
> > spring to break...pretty tough little bugger that spring!
> > 
> > Right now, I feel the need for some long needle nose pliers
> > which I do not own, so I guess I will make a run to Napa and 
> > see what is available for cheap for this one project.
> > 
> > As usual, all comments are appreciated!
> > 
> > Roger
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kneale at coslink.net [mailto:kneale at coslink.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:05 PM
> > To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; armanmik at earthlink.net; 
> v8 at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> > 
> > There are those, obviously with skinnier arms and greater
> > dexterity than I, who make the spring repairs with glove box 
> > in place, but not this guy.  If I recall correctly (and don't 
> > bet on that either), the glovebox assembly comes out as a 
> > unit if you loosen a couple of the Alan head screws in the 
> > top of the box and remove a couple covered by the dash endcap 
> > and then bump the assembly toward the end of the dash.  I 
> > have a shortened 4 (I think) mm Alan key where I cut down the 
> > short leg to get a little clearence so I could slide it in 
> > and out of the screws in the top of the glovebox.  Lotsa 
> > patience required.
> > 
> > Common problems with the spring are that one end breaks off
> > or the spring cut through the plastic mounting up inside the 
> > box.  I've heard of folks bending another spring winding 
> > enough to produce a new end, but I think you can get a 
> > replacement for pretty cheap if the spring end is broken.
> > 
> > If the spring is intact, it'll be hanging from the anchoring
> > fixture in the trap door.  That thing is designed to slide 
> > out with something like a 1/4 or 1/2 turn and (I believe), an 
> > 8mm hex driver.  I've always found it easier to hang the 
> > spring from the box mounting and then attach to the door fixture.
> > 
> > If the spring did, indeed, cut its way through the plastic
> > bar up in the evap box, I've used a small piece of aluminum 
> > folded over the bar to reinforce it.  Never had a spring cut 
> > through that.  Others have folded a similar piece of maybe 
> > heavier metal over the bar and put holes in it to run the 
> > spring end through.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Roger Woodbury rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:00:14 -0500
> > To: Armanmik at earthlink.net, v8 at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Subject:  heater core?
> > 
> > 
> > Investigation complete.
> > 
> > By establishing an entirely new treatment protocol for my
> > chiropractor, I was able to look up inside of the grilled 
> > that is underneath everything important near the heater core 
> > in back of the glove box.
> > 
> > Yup, sure enough. There is a spring hanging down loose.
> > 
> > A couple of screws and the grille will come down, and then I
> > can figure out what to do with the damned spring.  Hopefully 
> > it has just come loose.  
> > 
> > Interestingly enough one of the points at which the grille is
> > held in place isn't connected to the grill....the screw is 
> > there but it didn't connect to the grille.  Makes me wonder 
> > if someone has been in there before me.
> > 
> > We'll see, but I am pretty sure that a simple fix is at hand.
> > 
> > It also seems very clear that the easiest way to gain access
> > is by removal of the glove box itself first.  But I do not 
> > want to go there right now.
> > 
> > 
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