[V8] Subject: heater core?

Dave Head v8q at bellsouth.net
Thu Nov 20 11:15:37 PST 2008 

zip tie a loop in place and hang the end of the spring on the loop...

Ed Kellock wrote:
> I've had that happen on two cars.  I used some coat hanger wire and bent an
> M to hook over the to side pieces that anchored the plastic rod that is cut
> in half and then hooked the spring over the dip in the middle of the M.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger Woodbury [mailto:rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:48 AM
>> To: 'Ed Kellock'; kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; 
>> v8 at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
>>
>>
>> Its on the upper end.  The place where the spring fastens to 
>> the door is intact.
>>
>> I have bought a pair of angled needle nose pliers that are 
>> long enough to reach all the way up inside the recirc 
>> box...so I CAN get all the way in. Now the fun part will be 
>> to hook the spring and then pull it our while holding the 
>> door open.  At least I think it will be nasty.
>>
>> Chilly outside, too, of course, and the garage is still not 
>> emptied out for cars or mechanical adventures.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:07 PM
>> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; kneale at coslink.net; 
>> armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
>>
>> Is the plastic mounting point that the spring cut through on 
>> he door itself or on the other end where there is about an 
>> inch-long plastic rod that the spring loops over?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Roger Woodbury
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:00 AM
>>> To: kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I am in the process of doing this nasty little job.  I
>>> have found that the spring is intact and in excellent 
>>> condition.  The door is open, and the end of the spring cut 
>>> through the plastic mounting point.  
>>>
>>> I am not built for this job.  I am 5'9" tall and weigh
>>> something in the neighborhood of 230...think of someone built 
>>> like a Welsh coal miner, and you have the picture.  I have 
>>> fairly short fingers and pretty thick hands so this is beyond 
>>> being an entertaining project.
>>>
>>> Did you mean that the door itself will come out easily?  I
>>> can see where there is carpet that was glued to the back of 
>>> the door and that has come off, or maybe was pulled off at 
>>> some point?  IF the door can come off then I will be able to 
>>> put the spring back in place although I am not sure how I 
>>> will secure the end of the spring.  The plastic arms that the 
>>> mounting point straddles has holes in it a bit further in, 
>>> and I am wondering if I could just hook the end of the spring 
>>> around that point and then bring it down to the door?  It 
>>> would require stretching out the spring about 1/2-3/4" I 
>>> think, but the spring would never cut through all that 
>>> plastic and I think it would take quite a long time for the 
>>> spring to break...pretty tough little bugger that spring!
>>>
>>> Right now, I feel the need for some long needle nose pliers
>>> which I do not own, so I guess I will make a run to Napa and 
>>> see what is available for cheap for this one project.
>>>
>>> As usual, all comments are appreciated!
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kneale at coslink.net [mailto:kneale at coslink.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:05 PM
>>> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; armanmik at earthlink.net; 
>> v8 at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
>>>
>>> There are those, obviously with skinnier arms and greater
>>> dexterity than I, who make the spring repairs with glove box 
>>> in place, but not this guy.  If I recall correctly (and don't 
>>> bet on that either), the glovebox assembly comes out as a 
>>> unit if you loosen a couple of the Alan head screws in the 
>>> top of the box and remove a couple covered by the dash endcap 
>>> and then bump the assembly toward the end of the dash.  I 
>>> have a shortened 4 (I think) mm Alan key where I cut down the 
>>> short leg to get a little clearence so I could slide it in 
>>> and out of the screws in the top of the glovebox.  Lotsa 
>>> patience required.
>>>
>>> Common problems with the spring are that one end breaks off
>>> or the spring cut through the plastic mounting up inside the 
>>> box.  I've heard of folks bending another spring winding 
>>> enough to produce a new end, but I think you can get a 
>>> replacement for pretty cheap if the spring end is broken.
>>>
>>> If the spring is intact, it'll be hanging from the anchoring
>>> fixture in the trap door.  That thing is designed to slide 
>>> out with something like a 1/4 or 1/2 turn and (I believe), an 
>>> 8mm hex driver.  I've always found it easier to hang the 
>>> spring from the box mounting and then attach to the door fixture.
>>>
>>> If the spring did, indeed, cut its way through the plastic
>>> bar up in the evap box, I've used a small piece of aluminum 
>>> folded over the bar to reinforce it.  Never had a spring cut 
>>> through that.  Others have folded a similar piece of maybe 
>>> heavier metal over the bar and put holes in it to run the 
>>> spring end through.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: Roger Woodbury rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
>>> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:00:14 -0500
>>> To: Armanmik at earthlink.net, v8 at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject:  heater core?
>>>
>>>
>>> Investigation complete.
>>>
>>> By establishing an entirely new treatment protocol for my
>>> chiropractor, I was able to look up inside of the grilled 
>>> that is underneath everything important near the heater core 
>>> in back of the glove box.
>>>
>>> Yup, sure enough. There is a spring hanging down loose.
>>>
>>> A couple of screws and the grille will come down, and then I
>>> can figure out what to do with the damned spring.  Hopefully 
>>> it has just come loose.  
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough one of the points at which the grille is
>>> held in place isn't connected to the grill....the screw is 
>>> there but it didn't connect to the grille.  Makes me wonder 
>>> if someone has been in there before me.
>>>
>>> We'll see, but I am pretty sure that a simple fix is at hand.
>>>
>>> It also seems very clear that the easiest way to gain access
>>> is by removal of the glove box itself first.  But I do not 
>>> want to go there right now.
>>>
>>>
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