[V8] Subject: heater core?

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 13:11:54 PST 2008 

 I didn't think of that then.  Possibly because the spring already ate its
way through some plastic.  I didn't want to stretch to go over another piece
up there for the same reason, worsened by more spring tension.  That's when
I thought of the coat-hanger M bent so that the dip in the M is in about the
same position as the previous attachment point, retaining the original
amount of tension since I dind't know if that matter in accordance with the
functional requirements.  

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Head [mailto:v8q at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: Ed Kellock
> Cc: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> 
> 
> zip tie a loop in place and hang the end of the spring on the loop...
> 
> Ed Kellock wrote:
> > I've had that happen on two cars.  I used some coat hanger wire and 
> > bent an M to hook over the to side pieces that anchored the plastic 
> > rod that is cut in half and then hooked the spring over the 
> dip in the 
> > middle of the M.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Roger Woodbury [mailto:rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:48 AM
> >> To: 'Ed Kellock'; kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; 
> >> v8 at audifans.com
> >> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> >>
> >>
> >> Its on the upper end.  The place where the spring fastens to
> >> the door is intact.
> >>
> >> I have bought a pair of angled needle nose pliers that are
> >> long enough to reach all the way up inside the recirc 
> >> box...so I CAN get all the way in. Now the fun part will be 
> >> to hook the spring and then pull it our while holding the 
> >> door open.  At least I think it will be nasty.
> >>
> >> Chilly outside, too, of course, and the garage is still not
> >> emptied out for cars or mechanical adventures.
> >>
> >> R
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:07 PM
> >> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; kneale at coslink.net; 
> >> armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
> >> Subject: RE: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> >>
> >> Is the plastic mounting point that the spring cut through on
> >> he door itself or on the other end where there is about an 
> >> inch-long plastic rod that the spring loops over?
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Roger Woodbury
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:00 AM
> >>> To: kneale at coslink.net; armanmik at earthlink.net; v8 at audifans.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, I am in the process of doing this nasty little job.  I have 
> >>> found that the spring is intact and in excellent condition.  The 
> >>> door is open, and the end of the spring cut through the plastic 
> >>> mounting point.
> >>>
> >>> I am not built for this job.  I am 5'9" tall and weigh 
> something in 
> >>> the neighborhood of 230...think of someone built like a 
> Welsh coal 
> >>> miner, and you have the picture.  I have fairly short fingers and 
> >>> pretty thick hands so this is beyond being an 
> entertaining project.
> >>>
> >>> Did you mean that the door itself will come out easily?  
> I can see 
> >>> where there is carpet that was glued to the back of the door and 
> >>> that has come off, or maybe was pulled off at some point?  IF the 
> >>> door can come off then I will be able to put the spring back in 
> >>> place although I am not sure how I will secure the end of the 
> >>> spring.  The plastic arms that the mounting point straddles has 
> >>> holes in it a bit further in, and I am wondering if I could just 
> >>> hook the end of the spring around that point and then 
> bring it down 
> >>> to the door?  It would require stretching out the spring about 
> >>> 1/2-3/4" I think, but the spring would never cut through all that
> >>> plastic and I think it would take quite a long time for the 
> >>> spring to break...pretty tough little bugger that spring!
> >>>
> >>> Right now, I feel the need for some long needle nose 
> pliers which I 
> >>> do not own, so I guess I will make a run to Napa and see what is 
> >>> available for cheap for this one project.
> >>>
> >>> As usual, all comments are appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Roger
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: kneale at coslink.net [mailto:kneale at coslink.net]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:05 PM
> >>> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; armanmik at earthlink.net;
> >> v8 at audifans.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject: heater core?
> >>>
> >>> There are those, obviously with skinnier arms and greater 
> dexterity 
> >>> than I, who make the spring repairs with glove box in 
> place, but not 
> >>> this guy.  If I recall correctly (and don't bet on that 
> either), the 
> >>> glovebox assembly comes out as a unit if you loosen a 
> couple of the 
> >>> Alan head screws in the top of the box and remove a 
> couple covered 
> >>> by the dash endcap and then bump the assembly toward the 
> end of the 
> >>> dash.  I have a shortened 4 (I think) mm Alan key where I 
> cut down 
> >>> the short leg to get a little clearence so I could slide it in
> >>> and out of the screws in the top of the glovebox.  Lotsa 
> >>> patience required.
> >>>
> >>> Common problems with the spring are that one end breaks 
> off or the 
> >>> spring cut through the plastic mounting up inside the box.  I've 
> >>> heard of folks bending another spring winding enough to produce a 
> >>> new end, but I think you can get a replacement for pretty 
> cheap if 
> >>> the spring end is broken.
> >>>
> >>> If the spring is intact, it'll be hanging from the 
> anchoring fixture 
> >>> in the trap door.  That thing is designed to slide out with 
> >>> something like a 1/4 or 1/2 turn and (I believe), an 8mm 
> hex driver.  
> >>> I've always found it easier to hang the spring from the 
> box mounting 
> >>> and then attach to the door fixture.
> >>>
> >>> If the spring did, indeed, cut its way through the 
> plastic bar up in 
> >>> the evap box, I've used a small piece of aluminum folded over the 
> >>> bar to reinforce it.  Never had a spring cut through 
> that.  Others 
> >>> have folded a similar piece of maybe heavier metal over 
> the bar and 
> >>> put holes in it to run the spring end through.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Original Message:
> >>> -----------------
> >>> From: Roger Woodbury rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:00:14 -0500
> >>> To: Armanmik at earthlink.net, v8 at audifans.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subject:  heater core?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Investigation complete.
> >>>
> >>> By establishing an entirely new treatment protocol for my
> >>> chiropractor, I was able to look up inside of the grilled 
> >>> that is underneath everything important near the heater core 
> >>> in back of the glove box.
> >>>
> >>> Yup, sure enough. There is a spring hanging down loose.
> >>>
> >>> A couple of screws and the grille will come down, and then I
> >>> can figure out what to do with the damned spring.  Hopefully 
> >>> it has just come loose.  
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly enough one of the points at which the grille is
> >>> held in place isn't connected to the grill....the screw is 
> >>> there but it didn't connect to the grille.  Makes me wonder 
> >>> if someone has been in there before me.
> >>>
> >>> We'll see, but I am pretty sure that a simple fix is at hand.
> >>>
> >>> It also seems very clear that the easiest way to gain access
> >>> is by removal of the glove box itself first.  But I do not 
> >>> want to go there right now.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
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