[V8] [urq] Headlight motors, type 44 ... wiring?

Sun Sep 28 19:44:00 PDT 2008

The control switch is a 4 position rotary switch (0,1,2,3) - looks like 
seat heater switch. They are available occasionally on ebay.de.
I bought one a few years back. It's going on the 5 speed.
The Bosch number is:
0 307 650 105
663
081

There are two vacuum ports - 'source' and 'control'. The vacuum wiring 
diagram should show the connections. The vacuum lines from the lights 
tee to one line, and the constant vacuum source goes to the switch. I 
would likely tie in somewhere close to one of the vacuum reservoirs.
There are +/- connections for the dash lights to illuminate the switch. 
I don't have that connector, so I'll have to cobble up something.

Dave Head

Ron Wainwright wrote:
> I would like to touch on something Scott mentioned below........
> 
>>> The v8 went to a vacuum operated switch, much simpler, but NLA...  Still
>>> in search of one of those myself.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Scott J
> 
>  Is there a diagrahm of this? I'm getting everything to get my vacume motors working on my V8's Euros & would like to know how to figure it out.
> 
>  Thanx
> Ron
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/28/08, Dave C <dconner at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Dave C <dconner at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [V8] [urq] Headlight motors, type 44 ... wiring?
>> To: qshipq at aol.com, quattro at audifans.com, s-car-list at audifans.com, 200q20v at audifans.com, urq at audifans.com, v8 at audifans.com
>> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:58 PM
>> Howdy folks,
>>
>> I finally got everything buttoned back together today and
>> road tested, etc
>> so wanted to post the results, and say thank you to all who
>> replied.  Bob
>> Rosatto and Scott were right on with their description of
>> how the switch amd
>> motors work, and the wiring, etc.  There is no relay, and
>> the switch has
>> four positions.  I tapped the power wire into the low beam
>> yellow wire close
>> to the headlight switch on the steering column.  That's
>> connected by a short
>> wire over to the dashboard switch.  Having the factory
>> wiring harness for
>> the motors was an enormous helpl  Now everything's
>> working as it should.
>>
>> This began as a Euro light install, but I had the motors on
>> hand so I just
>> had to add them into the mix.  Then I remembered the single
>> pass intercooler
>> sitting in a box so had to install that too while
>> everything was apart.
>> Thankfully I remembered the air filter was due while things
>> were apart, so
>> that got replaced, plus a few other minor things.  Between
>> all that and the
>> usual distractions of life it took me til now to finish the
>> job and get the
>> 87 5ktq back on the road.  I don't know whether
>> I'll be able to detect a
>> difference in performance due to the intercooler, but
>> there's no doubt the
>> euro lights are a welcome upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks to Bob R, Scott, Frank B, Jeff L, Jim P, Dave Head,
>> Kneale, and all
>> the rest who pitched in to share info and ideas.
>>
>> Dave C
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>   On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:49 AM,
>> <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Dave
>>>> I did a couple of these installs years ago.  There
>> is no relay box in the
>>>> system, it works pretty much how Bob R describes. 
>> The black is the signal
>>>> wire from the switch to the back of the motor. 
>> The yellow is tapped into
>>>> the low beam wire (low beam-on gives power to the
>> switch black signal wire),
>>>> the brown is ground.  IIRC, it wasn't much
>> additional work at all.
>>>> The v8 went to a vacuum operated switch, much
>> simpler, but NLA...  Still
>>>> in search of one of those myself.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Scott J
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave C <dconner at gmail.com>
>>>> To: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at audifans.com;
>> 200q20v at audifans.com;
>>>> urq at audifans.com; v8 at audifans.com
>>>> Sent: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:08 pm
>>>> Subject: [urq] Headlight motors, type 44 ...
>> wiring?
>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm installing eurolights and would like to
>> include the motorized
>>>> adjusters.  I have the euro lights, motors, wiring
>> harness and switch so it
>>>> all looks pretty straightforward.  The car is an
>> 1987 5ktq, but I don't know
>>>> what model year the harness came out of.  The one
>> thing I'm hung up on is
>>>> connecting this harness into the stock U.S.
>> wiring.  Of course the Bentley
>>>> wiring diagrams don't show this because this
>> was a strictly euro feature
>>>> AFAIK.  Maybe headlight motors came to the US on
>> other models (maybe the
>>>> V8?) but I don't know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The harness has a three point plug and I need to
>> connect these 3 wires into
>>>> the stock wiring somehow.  It has yellow (Y),
>> brown (BR) and black
>>>> (BK) wires.  I think BRN = ground, Y = power ...
>> BK = I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone tell me the function of the BK wire?
>>  What to connect these
>>>> three wires to?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Dave C
>>>>
>>>> Columbus,OH
>>>>
>>>> 89 100E
>>>>
>>>> 87 5ktq
>>>>
>>>> 87 5ks
>>>>
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