[V8] V8 Avant FS

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Mon Apr 27 09:27:02 PDT 2009


Roger Woodbury <------------------- = "glass half empty"    lol





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Woodbury" <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com>
To: <V8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [V8] V8 Avant FS


> Ok, guys.  Cool off.  The Euro V8 is NOT going to come to the USofA.  Not
> now, not later, not ever.  Unless someone is a total idiot and that total
> idiot has more money than brains.
>
>
>
> For openers, there is slim to NO WAY that the car could be legally used in
> the US.  Even if it were possible to import the car for use on US roads 
> with
> US license, the cost would be prohibitive, and with no good reason to do 
> it.
>
>
>
> For the cost of importing and Federalizing a '94 5 speed Euro C4 Avant, 
> you
> could easily buy a 2002 S6 Avant, and have arguably twice the car...well,
> maybe the SAME car but better.  So it would seem anyway.
>
>
>
> For all of you long sufferers of my automotive moaning and groanings on 
> this
> list, I have actively pursued the concept of a V8 C4 Avant, using a "known
> good" A6 Avant donor body, and dropping in a "known good" V8 engine and
> drive train.  Of the latter, there are many and manifold examples, all for
> cheap dollars, with the added benefit that the miscellaneous other parts
> could be held as spares for my current '90 V8, which is a superb example 
> of
> Audi's best.
>
>
>
> Anyway, my favorite wrench is really interested in doing the project, so I
> can say that possibly, next winter during the "slow season" which arrives
> with Santa's sleigh, we could roll in the Avant that is sitting there and
> the donor car and go to town.  The A6S could then emerge along about March
> 31's, depending on how fast the guys spraying the paint are, and some 
> other
> stuff.
>
>
>
> I know that it sounds like I have it all figured out.  But there are 
> several
> catches, and I will lay them out for you all to ponder.
>
>
>
> First of all, there is the question:  WHY bother?  No good reason 
> actually,
> except that the A6 Avant would be SOOOO much nicer if it had only about
> seventy more horsepower.  Now the 3.6 litre V8 has around 240, and the A6
> Avant weighs some less than a V8 sedan..catch my drift?  The most prolific
> V8 stash is the 3.6, which would provide plenty of push for the A6 Avant.
> So the answer to the question is simply, that the A6 Avant NEEDS more 
> push.
> We can all agree about that.
>
>
>
> Second.  There is the cost to make the whole thing happen.  It seems to 
> work
> out like this:
>
> *         Cost of the donor car:  $300.  That is what my wrench has in it
> now, and he can keep the old engine and probably the rear end, too.  The
> transmission in the donor car is seriously in trouble, since the gear
> selector lever will not select gears, meaning that something serious is
> frozen up inside.
>
> *         1990 donor car:  $500-3500 depending on the car, condition,
> mileage, and "stuff" tacked on to it.
>
> *         Assorted mechanical and miscellaneous engineering time and 
> labor.
> AHA!  This is the biggie because we are entering uncharted waters here. 
> The
> engine compartment of the C4 has oodles of room for the V8, and the other
> dimensions appear to be within millimeters of each other.the donor and the
> A6 Avant.
>
> But we don't' REALLY know how to do it, so this could be majorbigtime. 
> The
> donor car in question is a well cared for example with 212,000 miles. You
> KNOW that there will be A/C issues, or at least heater core and blower
> issues, and who knows what else?  I know now that the recipient car has 
> had
> fairly recent tires and brakes and suspension stuff, so I am not worried
> about that.  It does need a good interior cleaning, but that isn't a major
> factor.  So by the time we get the engine/transmission/rear differential 
> and
> driveshaft stuff sorted, and installed, the body spruced up and repainted,
> and the car really ready to go out on the road to show, I expect the tab
> will blow through twelve grand..and that if we are lucky.  Now, ther e is 
> a
> lot of incidental stuff included in that, and the tab could run higher or
> lower, but it still will run around the same level.
>
> *         So the total for the project will be north of $15,000, you can
> also buy a 2002S6 Avant, which is arguably a much better deal with half 
> the
> mileage.
>
>
>
> So, yeah, your sales and exise taxes are lower, but I doubt that it all
> evens out.  Since I won't do my own wrenching, it seems a nonstarter.
>
>
>
> Besides, I have also been fantasizing about something else.  I really 
> would
> like to have another relatively low mileage Porsche 928.  I can easily
> "sell" that one to my wife, AFTER I get the new house and most 
> importantly,
> HER new kitchen built.
>
>
>
> And about those snide comments about Maine's common border with Canada, I
> can assure you that after those screwballs who hijacked planes in New York
> came in to the US across the Canadian/Maine border, they are no longer
> telling jokes up there.  I just came back to the US from Canada crossing
> without incident, but there were more of them there than of us.
>
>
>
> Roger
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