[V8] Phaeton anyone?

Mon Nov 2 07:13:33 PST 2009

IIRC there were a number of problems with them as well - major things 
like windshields that were distorted and wouldn't be replaced, because 
VW claimed there was nothing wrong with them.   Brakes, tire pressure 
systems and some mechanical issues.  And a lot of electrical gremlins.  
A few minutes online will show you lots of forum posts about 
significant warranty work on the cars.  More than one owner in a VW 
forum laments the fate of the first off-warranty buyer.

It certainly appears that it will follow the V8 model. Rare, expensive, 
wonderful when right and a nightmare when wrong.  If you get a good 
one, you'll be happy (but poor) and if you get a bad one you'll be sad 
(and more poor).  Given that it has considerably more electrical 
devices, you couldn't give me one, unless I had the money to pay 
someone else to fix/replace everything that went buggy.  The V8 has 
more than enough electronics for me, thank you very much.

John

-----Original Message-----

From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>

To: Scott Justusson <Qshipq at aol.com>; v8-bounces at audifans.com; 
rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; V8List Fans <v8 at audifans.com>

Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 9:43 am

Subject: Re: [V8] Phaeton anyone?

Agreed. I know someone intimately familiar with the Phaetons. The 
bugger is cost

of repairs. Nothing is cheap on these cars. And I mean nothing. If 
you're

seriously thinking of getting one, make sure it comes with a warranty 
and I'd

steer clear of the 12 cylinder ones.

Ingo Rautenberg

-----Original Message-----

From: qshipq at aol.com

Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:31:52

To: <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com>; <v8 at audifans.com>

Subject: Re: [V8] Phaeton anyone?

  I've driven the Phaeton, reminded me of a 'nicer' S8, but the S8 has a 
better

feel, IMO.  The better machine though, is the Toureg v10 tdi.  Much of 
the

phaeton running gear sits on that truck, and you get 530ft/lbs of twin 
diesel

torque to boot.  Fellow ex-v8, LT1Q, and 20vturq owner Rob Dupree 
bought one of

these monsters.  I read the dealer service intro manual cover to cover, 
the tdi

is the phaeton with a truck body.

Scott J

92 v8 ABT chipped

-----Original Message-----

From: Roger Woodbury <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com>

To: v8 at audifans.com

Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 7:16 am

Subject: [V8] Phaeton anyone?

I was looking at eBay's auctions yesterday, and happened onto the VWs.

There was this VW Phaeton W-12 four seater that I thought looked pretty

neat.

And no, I am not going to buy one, nor am I particularly interested, 
but I

must concede that I am curious about the car.  Like the V8 Quattro, in 
its

time and in its market, it was enormously expensive and a total sales 
and

marketing flop.  Still and all VW turned up the burners under this one, 
and

I suspect that mechanically and reliability wise they may be a very, 
very

good automobile.

I wonder if any lister has had one, or even driven one.  Although I have

looked, I have never seen one, not in anywhere in Maine that I have 
been,

nor anywhere else on the road when I have traveled.

So, my observations:  first of all, the four seater is neat I suppose, 
but

all of those cars have enormous rear leg room. Very nice if you have 
someone

riding in back with enormous legs, but that makes the car rather long, I

would think.

Speaking of long, it seems that the car's platform is the opposite of 
the

V8:  it seems to be ALL wheelbase and not a lot else, whereas the V8 is 
a

pretty short wheelbase with overhangs. That makes the V8 nimble in tight

places, and I wonder if the Phaeton is a lumbering brute when taken off 
the

smooth boulevards of southern California?

Any comments?

Roger

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