[V8] Subject: Re: Window operation troubleshooting

[NIck Miller]

It could be that I have the wrong switch back there.. you never know.   I'm
just really happy that I rebuilt the motor and it works!  Its far less
difficult than I thought, they kept the motor incredibly simple.  So that's
good news!  I'll find out tomorrow morning, thanks for correcting my stupid!

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Down means they're energized and up means the power is shut off and the
> rear switches are disabled.  Regardless of where the switch position is, you
> should be able to operate the windows from the driver's armrest console.
>
> On Aug 22, 2010 11:19 PM, "NIck Miller" <chance9121 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Err.... ooops . Ok! So, I can roll the rear window down with the rear
> > window switch, but not the front window switch. Also, I think I put the
> > wrong switch in, or something... because Up is down and down is up
> relative
> > to the rest of the switches. I had both rear armrests apart at the same
> > time.
> >
> > Now any ideas? Lol. I'd like to operate all 4 windows from the drivers
> > door, but the fact that it works is a huge improvement.
> >
> > Oh, also, do you guys depress the "lock" switch to lock the rears, or is
> it
> > up to lock them? That seems to be reverse of intrinisic too...
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Ingo Rautenberg <
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Yup.
> >>
> >> On Aug 22, 2010 11:13 PM, "NIck Miller" <chance9121 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Wow I didn't even think of the rear lockout switch. I couldn't operate
> it
> >> > from the driver's door either. You mean the "Lock" button on the
> drivers
> >> > door, right? Maybe I'll go try that right now. JC....9
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Ingo Rautenberg <
> >> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My guess (and I realise I'm late to the party) is you have either a
> >> broken
> >> >> wire in the driver's door jam wiring or the rear window lockout
> switch
> >> is
> >> >> bad.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ingo
> >> >>
> >> >> On Aug 22, 2010 11:02 PM, "NIck Miller" <chance9121 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Ok, a quick update. I got the rear Passenger side door out today,
> and
> >> >> took
> >> >> > apart the regulator so I could pull the motor out separately. Took
> it
> >> >> into
> >> >> > "The Lab" and opened it up. Everything was rusted/seized up pretty
> >> bad.
> >> >> > So I pulled it all apart, PB blaster, naval jelly, and a disc
> sander,
> >> and
> >> >> a
> >> >> > few other things and got it clean as a whistle, put it back
> together
> >> and
> >> >> > hooked it up to the car battery and it sung like it was new. Great.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Got it back together with the regulator, ran the window up and down
> >> and
> >> >> it
> >> >> > worked great. So, I then got the door back together, which took a
> >> little
> >> >> > while, and guess what! Doesn't work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, the light to either rear window switch doesn't come on at all,
> so
> >> I'm
> >> >> > guessing there is no power to the rear windows, which is maybe why
> the
> >> >> > motors seized, from not ever being used. The front switches all
> light
> >> up,
> >> >> > as does the passenger side front.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any thoughts here guys? I'm going to apply power to the motor
> tomorrow
> >> >> > again and verify it does still work now, and check a few other
> things,
> >> >> but
> >> >> > other than Fuses, any ideas?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM, NIck Miller <chance9121 at gmail.com
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Well, one of my window motors is for sure seized... I took apart
> the
> >> >> rear
> >> >> >> left passenger door and got the window motor off the regulator,
> the
> >> >> stator
> >> >> >> and rotor, I think it is, were rusted together. Got the center
> >> section
> >> >> out
> >> >> >> and I'm using my disc sander on it. The magnets come apart too, so
> >> >> >> hopefully I can fix it... we shall see. If not, need a new
> motor...
> >> >> Looks
> >> >> >> like both back ones are seized, not sure how so much moisture got
> in
> >> >> them,
> >> >> >> maybe came back through the "drain" thing that doesn't seem to
> work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:11 PM, <bw at udel.edu> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Don't forget there is a Rear Window Lockup on the driver's door
> >> control
> >> >> >>> panel. It is
> >> >> >>> a long button.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I have a problem of intermittent window and sunroof operation. It
> >> works
> >> >> >>> and then
> >> >> >>> won't operate. Later they come back to life. Maybe a power thing,
> >> >> because
> >> >> >>> it comes
> >> >> >>> back after time. This car also has a hot start problem that is
> >> >> >>> intermittent. I believe
> >> >> >>> the sensor work because they are new, but maybe a wiring problem
> or
> >> >> ECU. I
> >> >> >>> can't
> >> >> >>> test it myself. Bob
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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