[V8] Hybrid Q5 or Q7 Diesels on the other side ...

[Ingo Rautenberg]

Well, Ed

Here in Michigan regular unleaded and diesel are priced about the same as
mid-grade and available at every gas station. Not sure about the additional
'upgrade' cost as a vehicle option. I was under the impression that they
were priced roughly the same as well -- though I admittedly haven't been car
shopping lately. Obviously a better deal if you drive a lot of miles.

-Ingo
On Aug 3, 2011 3:35 PM, <Etdmail at cs.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All -
>
> It should be noted that much of the Diesel emissions quality
> here, has been gained through legislative efforts in reducing
> sulfur contents.
>
> These efforts change the yield quotient from a barrel of oil though.
> Where Diesel refining/cracking once yielded more gallons, per
> barrel than gasoline, now yields less, due to additional refining.
>
> To the end consumer, it still has a BTU advantage. But
> one does pay more for that at the dealership and the pump.
> Hopefully you don't have to drive further to find it too, so do
> your own math carefully!
>
> And Hybrids of course are just an interim technological patch
> until lagging investments in the sciences can get us all up to
> speed on something else. Until then hopefully we will all be
> traveling further on less, more greenly...
>
>
> Best,
> ~Ed
> (Cambridge)
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> In a message dated 8/3/2011 11:08:57 AM EDT
> , v8-request at audifans.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:20:04 -0400
>> From: kyle leatherwood <kyle_leatherwood at hotmail.com>
>> To: <v8 at audifans.com>
>> Subject: Re: [V8] You never know...
>>
>>
>> Yeah Ingo, you know. It is very sad. In speaking with a close friend who
>> is a DPSM for one of the major manufacturers, the rest of the world
laughs
>> at the US because we are the only "dumbasses" in the world who think
>> hybrid technology is good. Sadly, they make diesels now that the exhaust
is
>> cleaner than gas engines. But hey, as long as Americans buy into hybrids,

>> then diesel engine will never take off here!
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:26:55 -0400
>> >From: ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
>> >To: v8 at audifans.com
>> >Subject: [V8] You never know...
>> >
>> >So I was fueling up for the second time today (only throw in $20 at a
>> time
>> >lately) and noticed a hybrid Q5 or Q7 on the other side of the pump with
>> >manufacturer plates. 30ish guy with his wife and kid.
>> >
>> >Struck up a conversation about the hybrid and he explains it has a 360v
>> >battery and 4cyl 2 liter turbo (basically performance of the six and
>> >efficiancy if the four) and he asks, "5000?"
>> >"No, V8 5 speed"
>> >"Ah, D1. Don't see many of those around." Ha, he knew
>> >(as an Audi/VW engineer -- I'm guessing).
>> >
>> >We both agreed diesels were better than hybrids :-)
>> >
>> >-Ingo
>> >___________________________________________
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