[V8] G60 brakes - PLEASE READ CORRECTION TO ERRORS

[allanvega at comcast.net]

I just triple checked with ETKA, and all V8 quattro use the same lower controle arms (441 407 151 left and 441 407 152c right) these are 19mm ball join part numbers, which mean the ufo housings are 19mm. Furthermore, I'm running the hp2 setup from the '97 S6+, and those are 100% 19mm with control arms above, and there are no issues what so ever(why would they be, there 19mm.) 

Of course the statement above excludes cars that were modified with parts form early 200's or 5000's or what ever else others may have tried . 

*Disclaimer.... statement above was not made to attack,belittle, or start a pissing match with anyone. If I have upset, or offended anyone, I apologize here publicly now. Al 


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From: qshipq at aol.com 
To: "ingo rautenberg" <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>, "ron 01056" <ron_01056 at yahoo.com> 
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 6:34:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [V8] G60 brakes - PLEASE READ CORRECTION TO ERRORS 


Ok a couple of clarifications, now that the misinformation is getting me all confused.... First off, I have worked on 3 ABH v8 USA cars with original owners years ago that had the 28mm bar from the factory. IMU, these were randomly used in the late ABH series cars, most commonly found on '94's. To the stamped vs cast swaybar mounting clamps: ABT made a 30mm bar application that used the stamped early style clamps, which means you absolutely can use stamped clamps on a 28mm bar. I have use the stamped style clamps on a 28mm bar of my own car with inner bushings from Suspension techniques. I've also seen a stamped 26mm bar AND bushing set on a 28mm bar. To the biggest error I read on this thread, THE UFO UPRIGHT IS NOT A 19mm BALL JOINT RON!!!!!!!. It is 18mm (REREAD PLEASE: IT"S AN 18MM BALL JOINT ON UFO CARS), and if you try to use that 18mm joint on a 19mm S4 Upright, you are compromising the safety of that vehicle! Rant off. 

WRT springs, that is not part of the TSB Customer complaint for the UF0>G60 Conversion Campaign in the USA. 

WRT handling, there is less front body roll. Specifically, since bar diameter (given same design and material) stiffness increase is diameter^4 power (26x26x25x26) = 456,976 'units' vs (28x28x28x28)= 614,656 614,656/456,976 = 1.345 = The 28mm bar has a 34.5% increase in roll bar rate over the 26mm bar. That rate makes a big difference on either a stock or modified car, and yields a noticeable improvement in handling. 

Luckily the urs car boys with 26mm factory bars have it simpler, as all urA6 chassis wagons had 28mm bars. 

HTH 

Scott J 
92 v8 ABT Chipped G60's 
91 v8 UFO 










-----Original Message----- 
From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com> 
To: ron_01056 at yahoo.com 
Cc: v8 at audifans.com <v8 at audifans.com>; toml99 at todomundo.com <toml99 at todomundo.com> 
Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 2:01 pm 
Subject: Re: [V8] G60 brakes 


Rob, 



I thought all the '92 and '93 V8s with ABH motor came with the 28mm bar? I 

put one on my 200q20v and have the same one on one of my '91 V8s. Yes, the 

carriers are cast aluminum (or aluminium) and much beefier than the stamped 

steel units used for the 26mm bars - and alo require different size rubber 

bushings for the carriers and longer bolts. As to the setup when changing 

for UFO rotors to G60s from the dealership -- I believe we used the UrS4 

(100 quattro with I5 turbo) uprights and control arms. They use the larger 

balljoints iirc. 



Ingo 



On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:49 PM, <ron_01056 at yahoo.com> wrote: 



> No v8 in the States came with the 28mm bar! U got ta buy one and have it 

> shipped from Germany.....along with new saddles, bushing and longer bolts. 

> I did a group buy of them like 4 or so years ago. I have one on 

> Betty....not sure I can give an impression of the benefits of it cause my 

> suspension is not stock. 

> 

> Ron 

> 

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 

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> From: "toml99 at todomundo.com" <toml99 at todomundo.com> 

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> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:44:01 

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> Definatly does not have the 28mm bar...... 

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