[V8] ...a 2.7T?
Dave Saad
dsaad at icehouse.net
Mon Jul 4 16:34:06 PDT 2011
They are easy to forget because they are just a knock off of a Mercedes. If it had some personality instead of relentless pursuit of perfection, then maybe I could see owning one but why not just get a Camry? If reliable is what you want (and you don't mind the un-intended acceleration thing, and you can ignore the plethora of other "reliability" issues) then save yourself some cash and get the most homogeneous vehicle ever built. They look pretty much the same to me.
I prefer the excitement of never knowing if I will arrive in my V8. (spoiler alert - I always do)
Dave
On Jul 4, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Ricky Joshi wrote:
> I think one car that no one thinks about is the 1990-1994 Lexus LS400. I am
> a V8 fan forever and am willing to deal with the cost/ effort to keep the
> car going. The LS doesn't come close in terms of how fun it is to drive or
> overall spirit. BUT I'm convinced its the most reliable car in history. I
> bought my 1991 in 2008 with 49K miles. Its now at 80K and I haven't spent
> one penny or one minute on repairs except oil changes and tires.
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Roger M. Woodbury
> <rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net>wrote:
>
>> I never thought about the newer turbo charged engine in a C4. I wonder if
>> it would be more difficult to get the electronics to work with this engine
>> than with a 3.6 V8 swap?
>>
>> I quite agree that the C4 is the best car for us, particularly at this
>> point
>> in our lives. I have little tolerance for "niggling" issues that I believe
>> should have been eliminated during the design and engineering process. I
>> have NO issues with a car that has north of 150k developing "issues", but
>> when the car has less than 50K and has "issues", I can get right nasty.
>> When my brandy new BMW 318 developed run on problems and bad synchronizers
>> TWICE in fifty thousand miles and I was advised by the BMW factory rep that
>> I should "hold on" until the newer 325 appeared because it was going to be
>> a
>> MUCH better car, I nearly came unglued. That was the last Bimmer in my
>> life, because BMW admitted that the 318 engine was not properly designed to
>> operate in the US on US formulated unleaded gasoline....couldn't operate at
>> high enough temperature to burn off the anti-smog additives, and they
>> admitted to me after the first transmission overhaul that they had
>> experienced a period of issues with the synchronizers that were supplied
>> for
>> that gear box. Fourteen plus grand for a small two door sedan was a bunch
>> of money in 1983!
>>
>> In 2001 I paid about that for the C4 Avant which we now have 165,000 miles
>> on. The car now has "issues" of old age and wear and tear. It needs
>> refurbishing, both inside and out, it needs a new A/C compressor at some
>> point, although the system still works as it should. The control head is
>> argumentative until the car has run for an hour or so, the transmission has
>> a one second delay going from park to drive first thing in the morning (not
>> after that), and the engine has leaks that will need to be addressed at
>> some
>> point by pulling the engine and resealing.
>>
>> My wife thinks it's perfect as is. If she is content with it, I won't stir
>> up the hornets nest, but I still have this fanatasy of a similar car that
>> just once...one time only....really surprises some yahoo in his new, retro
>> Mustang.
>>
>> Just not going to happen THIS year, but since C4s keep getting thrown away,
>> who knows what next year will bring.
>>
>> Roger
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