[V8] ...a 2.7T?

[Ricky Joshi]

Ha - I actually think the LS400 does have lots going for it in terms of the
luxury/price/reliability equation.  My car still smells new inside and it
drives like it was out of the showroom, while only costing me a few thousand
bucks.  That said, totally agree - I'm having trouble with its total absence
of passion.  Can't wait for my '93 V8 Quattro to arrive so I can fill that
void!  I think the LS, in spite of its absolutely amazing build quality, is
just too boring.



On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Dave Saad <dsaad at icehouse.net> wrote:

> They are easy to forget because they are just a knock off of a Mercedes.
>  If it had some personality instead of relentless pursuit of perfection,
> then maybe I could see owning one but why not just get a Camry? If reliable
> is what you want (and you don't mind the un-intended acceleration thing, and
> you can ignore the plethora of other "reliability" issues) then save
> yourself some cash and get the most homogeneous vehicle ever built.  They
> look pretty much the same to me.
> I prefer the excitement of never knowing if I will arrive in my V8.
> (spoiler alert - I always do)
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Ricky Joshi wrote:
>
> > I think one car that no one thinks about is the 1990-1994 Lexus LS400.  I
> am
> > a V8 fan forever and am willing to deal with the cost/ effort to keep the
> > car going.  The LS doesn't come close in terms of how fun it is to drive
> or
> > overall spirit.  BUT I'm convinced its the most reliable car in history.
> I
> > bought my 1991 in 2008 with 49K miles.  Its now at 80K and I haven't
> spent
> > one penny or one minute on repairs except oil changes and tires.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Roger M. Woodbury
> > <rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I never thought about  the newer turbo charged engine in a C4.  I wonder
> if
> >> it would be more difficult to get the electronics to work with this
> engine
> >> than with a 3.6 V8 swap?
> >>
> >> I quite agree that the C4 is the best car for us, particularly at this
> >> point
> >> in our lives.  I have little tolerance for "niggling" issues that I
> believe
> >> should have been eliminated during the design and engineering process.
>  I
> >> have NO issues with a car that has north of 150k developing "issues",
> but
> >> when the car has less than 50K and has "issues", I can get right nasty.
> >> When my brandy new BMW 318 developed run on problems and bad
> synchronizers
> >> TWICE in fifty thousand miles and I was advised by the BMW factory rep
> that
> >> I should "hold on" until the newer 325 appeared because it was going to
> be
> >> a
> >> MUCH better car, I nearly came unglued.  That was the last Bimmer in my
> >> life, because BMW admitted that the 318 engine was not properly designed
> to
> >> operate in the US on US formulated unleaded gasoline....couldn't operate
> at
> >> high enough temperature to burn off the anti-smog additives, and they
> >> admitted to me after the first transmission overhaul that they had
> >> experienced a period of issues with the synchronizers that were supplied
> >> for
> >> that gear box.  Fourteen plus grand for a small two door sedan was a
> bunch
> >> of money in 1983!
> >>
> >> In 2001 I paid about that for the C4 Avant which we now have 165,000
> miles
> >> on.  The car now has "issues" of old age and wear and tear.  It needs
> >> refurbishing, both inside and out, it needs a new A/C compressor at some
> >> point, although the system still works as it should.  The control head
> is
> >> argumentative until the car has run for an hour or so, the transmission
> has
> >> a one second delay going from park to drive first thing in the morning
> (not
> >> after that), and the engine has leaks that will need to be addressed at
> >> some
> >> point by pulling the engine and resealing.
> >>
> >> My wife thinks it's perfect as is.  If she is content with it, I won't
> stir
> >> up the hornets nest, but I still have this fanatasy of a similar car
> that
> >> just once...one time only....really surprises some yahoo in his new,
> retro
> >> Mustang.
> >>
> >> Just not going to happen THIS year, but since C4s keep getting thrown
> away,
> >> who knows what next year will bring.
> >>
> >> Roger
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