[V8] Ramblings

[Paul Jager]

At the consumer level -  purchases are very much an emotional transaction.

Sights, sounds, feel, and value...How good do you feel in the driver's seat? 
How does the "brand" appeal to your narcissistic needs?

We could all be in primer black boxes, four steel rims... no problem would 
fit the bill for anyone's true needs.

So the automakers battle it out on many fronts. Audi uses a certain type of 
style. Appeals to women probably more than BMW just a guess.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Justusson
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:29 AM
To: rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net ; CavalloGT at gmail.com
Cc: V8 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V8] Ramblings


It's the consumer that creates the demand for all this glitz Roger... 
Active Noise Control is already in the 2012 S8 (to cover up the 4cylinder 
running mode sounds) and the Hybrid A8 gets it next, and why wouldn't you 
use it?  You could add more pounds to dampen the noise via insulation, or 
actively cancel the noise using less weight.  Infiniti has had ANC for a 
couple years, and even Ford has it in the LTZ lineup.  To a true high end 
audiofile owner, ANC is easy to understand and conceptualize (think apposed 
fire woofers, btbuiltt).

Anyone that speaks to service issues or problems, shouldn't be driving an 
Audi.  I've brokered a few v10tdi's and driven them extensively, and I'm 
sure there are POS within them in the market, as it's not a cheap vehicle to 
maintain (insert cough for all audis included).  I tow dead Audis with a TRD 
Supercharged Landcruiser that's a much cheaper vehicle to drive and 
maintain, but when Duprees v10tdi got better mileage towing a trailer than 
my LC empty, my mind wanders a bit.  But alas, try buying engine parts to 
rebuild an '01 S8 (hello just got that call), they aren't NLA, there were 
never 'A' to begin with.  Step 1:  Buy new motor.

C4 Avants?  My daughter drives one, great car.  But you can buy a low 
mileage 97 A6qavant for less than it will cost to revive yours.  And I enjoy 
my v8 as a fine road car, but not enough to buy another once my 92 expires. 
Too many other machines (already built) that make the v8q an ego choice, not 
a rational one.  I've been around enough to realize being that stubborn eats 
the wallet faster than v10tdi ownership would.

Cheers

Scott J
92 v8 Auto 4.2 ABT Chipped
91 v8 Auto 3.6
95 C4 Avant Auto fwd






-----Original Message-----
From: Roger M. Woodbury <rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net>
To: CavalloGT <CavalloGT at gmail.com>
Cc: V8 <V8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 17, 2012 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [V8] Ramblings


I agree with everything you said.  I know the younger generation accepts
everything being foisted off on them as “must haves”, but like other aged,
febrile old farts, I truly believe that true quality is being slipped away 
in
the interest of slick, rapid turnaround of product, and glitzy, video-game 
like
instant gratification.

I drove a lovely new ToeRag a year and a half ago.  It was a diesel, of 
course,
V-10, and I simply had to drive one.  My impression was of a lovely running
engine in a lousy chassis, and at 75,000 miles it would probably still pull 
like
a train but be falling apart, if it even could be run on the road.  When I 
heard
some of the frightening stories about service issues and the involved nature 
of
otherwise routine maintenance, I stopped paying even the slightest 
attention.  I
fantasized having a Passat W8 at one point when first decided to at least 
think
about the aging 100CS Avant my wife drives and loves.  Then I heard some of 
the
horror stories about the W8 motor, and decided that VW was rapidly becoming 
a
Japaneseee Metooer.

Now with 175K plus on the Audi 100CS, I am looking seriously at putting 
three or
even four grand into the body. The car runs perfectly and without error and 
even
a new A6 Avant will not do one thing better than the 1994 Avant does.  And 
the
body guys who work for the wrecking yards whose job it is to dismantle these
cars have told me that the newer cars suffer from body rust much more 
severely
than does the early C4 cars.

I have been saying for a long time the best cars have all been built, and I 
see
no reason to believe otherwise now, and not even the howling sound of a
screaming V8 piped through the seventy three carefully toned speakers in the 
new
HarmonBose system in the newest cars can change my mind.

Roger
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