[V8] Was: Replacing the thermostat Is now: Timing belt time

John Bysinger doog at bysinger.net
Wed Jul 18 15:45:07 PDT 2012


Well I went ahead and ordered the full kit + an extra seal for the oil pump
along with the rental tool set.  Really $45 (+ a large deposit) is small
change for peace of mind that I have what I need to get it done.  Not to
mention having good antifreeze and a set of instructions as well.

It looks like Blau has already shipped too, supposed to arrive next
Tuesday.  I hope to have the front end off and out of the way Sunday so
when everything arrives I can hit the ground running on Tuesday.

Thanks for the tip!

-John

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, James Bass <thedvnt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I got a kit from Blauparts - it seemed like the price was reasonable for
> everything that was in the kit:
>
>
>    - 1 Timing Belt
>    - 3 Timing Belt Tensioners / Idlers
>    - 1 Timing Belt Tensioner Damper
>    - 1 Water Pump w/ Gasket
>    - 1 Front Crank Seal
>    - 2 Viton Camshaft Seal
>    - 2 Distributor Shaft Seals
>    - 6 Liters G12 Plus German Antifreeze (4 - 1.5L Bottles)
>    Appropriate amount for complete cooling system flush.
>    - Thread Locking Compound
>
> Just checked - $460 for their kit - shipped.  Looking at Rockauto - looks
> like the price is somewhat comparable, if you were to buy all the parts
> individually from Rockauto (TB + Tensioner: $100, Idlers/etc: $250 (3), WP:
> $47, Seals: ~$30 - and these are all the lowest cost items...).
>
> But all of that stuff should be replaced, unless you want to go back in a
> month or so and have to put in a new front crank seal, or something like
> that...  ...or worse...
>
> Replace the oil pump seal too - while you are there.  Fan
> bearing/clutch...  My Fan bearing was AWFUL and LOUD.  Uhmmm... ...that's
> all I can think of, personally at the moment...
>
> --j
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM, John Bysinger <doog at bysinger.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, the darn V8 addiction kept me from letting the car go.  Instead it
>> got parked until I could afford to get these issues taken care of.  Well
>> now, I can so it's time to order some parts and while I've got the front
>> end apart I'm going to try to address all the problems I can reach with
>> the
>> front end out of the way.
>>
>> My todo list:
>> Water pump
>> Timing belt
>> High pressure line from PS pump (possibly more lines if they look sketchy)
>> Fix a wiring glitch from when I installed the Euro headlights (only one
>> bright works, need to troubleshoot that)
>>
>> My question is where is everyone buying parts for timing belt replacement
>> these days?  I was looking at rockauto.com's prices and they seem ok, but
>> I've had mixed results with them from other purchases before.  I would
>> rather avoid ebay, since now that I can afford to do this I don't want to
>> deal with unpredictable shipping.  Does anyone have a quick list handy of
>> everything I should be replacing for the timing belt?  I remember a good
>> timing belt FAQ/howto posted on here years ago but I can't seem to find
>> it.
>>
>> I plan on using Spokane Hose again for the power steering plumbing, I used
>> them for the two going to/from the rack previously (I should have done all
>> the hoses back then!)
>>
>> Any other suggestions of what to look at/check/replace while I've got the
>> front end off?
>>
>> Thanks as always!
>>
>> -John
>> '90V8Q
>>
>> OH!  I also spotted a very clean looking silver V8 last week, stick shift
>> on BBS wheels at Achtuning in Redmond, WA, is that a lister?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:35 AM, John Bysinger <doog at bysinger.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks everyone for the tips, changing out the thermostat was actually
>> > pretty easy.  However, it turns out that was just a symptom.  The
>> problem
>> > is the water pump.  Unfortunately that means timing belt, and I'm at
>> 55k on
>> > the belt, so it needs done too.  Also recently the high pressure line
>> from
>> > the power steering pump is also gone, I just had to replace 2 tires
>> within
>> > a month one from hitting a down branch, the other a blowout from what
>> looks
>> > like a cut from something I drove over.  And the window switch / wiring
>> > issue has reared it's head too.
>> >
>> > I think it's time for me to retire the car.  It's got 170k-ish on the
>> > clock, dark blue, grey leather.  Up until the water pump she still
>> pulled
>> > strong with the typical cold puff of smoke pulling away from a stop.
>>  Euro
>> > headlights fused and relayed.  S4 style (no name) 18" rims, front
>> rubber is
>> > new, rear has 40%ish left.  Front suspension needs work too.  Body is
>> > mostly straight, it rear ended a camry 4 years ago at low speed which
>> > pushed in the bumper and broke the headlights (which was when I
>> converted
>> > to Euros), bumper supports were replaced, but it's still about 1/2 out
>> of
>> > square.  Blower motor replaced 5 years ago, new gaskets on the master
>> > cylinder last year.
>> >
>> > Would make a great parts car, or could be brought back to life if
>> someone
>> > wanted to invest the time.
>> >
>> > Car is in the Seattle, WA area, asking $2k but am open to negotiation
>> with
>> > listers.  If it doesn't sell here I'll probably put it on craigslist in
>> a
>> > month.
>> >
>> > I'm sad, but we've had the car for 7 years, and thanks to everyone here,
>> > it's been fun and not the nightmare I was told it could be.  But don't
>> > count me out, I may come back if the unicorn 5sp/4.2/black '94 crosses
>> my
>> > path down the road. :)  Thanks to everyone here who helped when I asked,
>> > and who's own problems and discussions were archived in my email over
>> the
>> > years for me to search.
>> >
>> > -John Bysinger
>> > 1990 V8Q, now for sale.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM, John Bysinger <doog at bysinger.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tomorrow I'm picking up a new thermostat for our '90/3.6L V8Q.  Over
>> the
>> >> weekend she ran a little hot (125C on the dash guage, oil temp never
>> >> wavered), and hasn't wanted to run back at the normal temps since.
>>  Coolant
>> >> was low, but I don't know if that was before it overheated or because
>> it
>> >> did overheat.  The pressure relief cap on the reserve tank under the
>> hood
>> >> was doing it's job and venting over pressure in the system.  This kind
>> of
>> >> symptom on other cars I've owned has always been a stuck thermostat.
>>  But
>> >> there's always great advice here, so I thought I would check in to see
>> if
>> >> there's anything I'm missing, or any advice on replacing the
>> thermostat, I
>> >> checked my email archives from here and it seems to match the
>> symptoms.  It
>> >> seems a fairly straight forward procedure, right on the passenger side
>> >> front of the block.  Any tips are welcome.
>> >>
>> >> Conditions when it overheated were very low stress, I was driving to a
>> >> tire shop on the spare so I was taking it very easy.  45MPH on a
>> >> straight/flat, about 15 minutes down the road from a cold start at
>> home.
>> >>  Once I got it home, first thing I checked was the auxiliary fan, since
>> >> I've had to replace it's fusible link before.  No issues, runs through
>> it's
>> >> cycles fine, including hurricane simulation speed, and does kick on
>> when
>> >> the temp climbs above normal.
>> >>
>> >> As always, Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> -John
>> >> 1990 V8Q
>> >> john at bysinger.net
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > john at bysinger.net
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> john at bysinger.net
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