[V8] I'm with you, times two!
Roger M. Woodbury
rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net
Fri Sep 26 04:18:03 PDT 2014
I agree with you! All things considered, there is really no comparison
between the V8 Quattro and anything....anything else on the planet if
the ultimate number of dollars is taken into consideration. I paid
$6600 for my '90V8 (69,000 miles) in 2007. I had to have the timing
belt and front brakes done and a few other niggling items but the car
was nearly new otherwise...the timing belt in the engine was the
original belt. There has been more done and now it will need more items
that are age related. One winter I slid on water covered ice in the
driveway, cracked the front bumper cover and a fog light lens. When
that was replaced, I had the body shop repaint the bottom 1/4 so all age
related issues and the normal little chips and scuffs from 80,000 miles
were removed and the car really now sparkles like new. Oh, yes: I must
add that all my work is done by the same independent shop I have done
business with for fifteen years.
I have tested the market twice on this car simply because we really no
longer need to keep two cars on the road. The station wagon we have is
the ONE car that gets used exclusively now, so the V8 is really excess.
Sitting still in the garage isn't helping it, but I am not going to gift
it away either. There is no market and that's a shame because for small
dollars someone could get a nearly pristine premium V8 touring
automobile that would last a long, long time.
The station wagon is a '94 Audi 100 CS quattro that I bought from the
original selling dealer in Kansas City fourteen years ago. The car had
39,000 miles on it when I drove it off the lot and it is nearing 200,000
miles. That car needs some things, all of which are age related. It
needs an a/c compressor, a bit of touch up in the instrument cluster, a
tailgate latch, some window switches and a new (er) hvac control panel
would be nice...one with less than 100k of service I suspect, and front
struts and bushings. Some of these items it will get in December when
it goes in for annual inspection. The only things it really needs is
the tailgate latch and the front struts. My mechanic has a parts wagon
so the tailgate latch will be small dollars. Over the past years I have
paid again the original purchase price in maintenance. Today the car is
NOT rusty beneath, and runs perfectly, without hesitation and still gets
around 24 miles per gallon of gas, which is the same that it got when
first put into service. The car uses a quart of oil about every seven
hundred miles which is exactly what it used when first purchased. It
has had miriads of oil leaks alll of which were taken care of last
spring, when a lot of vacuum lines were replaced, which made the engine
run like new also. What the car really, really is getting to need is
new black lower body rub strips and a complete refinishing. So for less
than $2000 can have this car looking like new, if I buy the rub strips
on line in the aftermarket (They will cost more than $1100 from the Audi
dealer!).
I have done the "old car/new car/which one replacement" dance on the
station wagon also. I have done the research and determined that I might
be interested in a Mercedes E320 4Matic wagon from 1999-2001. They were
the last of the electronically "simple" wagons that were repairable
without terrible money issues. ALL the money for one would be around
ten grand with less than 100,000 miles and they exist in good quantity.
I have decided that another Audi will NOT be the choice, simply because
the electronics and cheapened body parts (so I am told) has diminished
the value in my mind AND for a Quattro Avant of those years, if you can
find one, the entry price is really too high. I have thought about BMW
wagons, but am still stinging from the screwing that the '83 318i was.
BMW might be the ultimate driving machine, but I don't give a damn if it
ultimately has electronic gremlins that ultimately can't be fixed.
Anything with a roundel on the nose is at least ten to fifteen percent
more than it is worth at 55 miles per hour on Maine's rural roads.
So in the end, we are keeping the 100 in service. Next year we might
have it resprayed and a new a/c compressor installed prior to summer. We
lived without it this year and missed it only ONE day: we really don't
need to go far or often and this summer was cool enough so a/c was
needed only one day. By next year at this time, there will be more than
200,000 miles on the wagon. I will have spent around $28,000 or so on
the car, including purchase price, labor and parts maintenance since
purchase. I expect the car to still be running like new. It is a known
quantity: I knew what to expect to do to the car over time/miles, parts
are not difficult to source, specific operating expense is low (regular
gas and I buy five quarts of oil every other month or so), excise tax is
on the bottom rung and physical damange insurance is cheap for us and
this car. More to the point is what could I get that will duplicate
what this car does for us at any sort of reasonable cost? Only
Mercedes, VW, and BMW and Audi build station wagons now at all, and I
doubt they will continue to do so indefinitely (although Mercedes
probably will longer than the rest). When the 100 closes in on the
230,000 mile mark it will need its fourth timing belt service. If it
remains running as it is today, I will likely have that done and
continue to chug along. But that will be the next time that I will
seriously consider a replacement, I think....even if the transmission
drops out of it, I have another one close by, and even transmission and
engine replacement will be cheaper than buying anything else. We have
little need for more cupholders or more airbags than this one has, so
without clear advantage, this station wagon is as good as it gets. Just
like my V8: small dollars and big rewards.
By the way, you said you purchased from Carousel? I wonder which
Carousel that was? I bought my '89 200 Quattro Avant from Carousel in
Minneapolis back in 1992 (I think it was). I bought it over the
telephone and flew out to arrive on the fourth of July. They picked me
up at the motel and when I arrived at the dealership, the sales manager
wanted to speak to me. He wanted to know why a guy from the Maine coast
would fly all the way to Minneapolis to buy that car. He wanted to know
where I got my "basis of trust" from. I told him that I saw his ad on
the Audi Quattro news letter and I figured in Minneapolis they had
plenty of "marks" to screw if they wanted to screw someone, but to screw
a guy who knew about the Audi Quattro fan club would do more to hurt
them than me. Besides, I told him I wanted a black, 200 Avant with low
miles and that car was the only one I could find like it for any
reasonable price. The sale manager laughed and told me they had been
Quattro Club member since inception and respected the "power" of the
organization for they sales purposes. He said that because I was paying
cash with no trade, they would adjust the price of the car I had agreed
to buy, and on the spot, they dropped the price $900! When I got into
the station wagon to drive home, I had decided to go through the
Michigan upper peninsular, cross into Canada and then down through
Maine, crossing the border at Jackman. I think I got about twenty miles
from the dealer when I noticed the development thinning out and I then
decided I should look around for a gas station. For the first time I
checke the fuel gauge to find the dealer had FILLED the tank before I
left. THAT was what you call a FIRST CLASS buying experience!
Roger
P.S. If my wife wasn't terminally clutch challenged, we would still
have that car and today it would have around 350,000 miles on it!
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