[V8] to the junk yard

Paul Jager pjager at telus.net
Mon Sep 29 09:41:31 PDT 2014 

I called Hwy 4 Salvage the '93 car is gone to the crusher. Other than the 
tranny and rear diff I can't think of anything that was really good on the 
car. Everything leaked. Oil out, rain water in. All the LCD displays were 
blitzed. Engine would need a re-gasket that sort of thing.  Exhaust, rear 
brakes, things were getting really rusty underneath....

There is a nice looking light blue V8 driving around Parksville - I wonder 
who owns that??

Anyway - I did offer the V8 to my buddy Brian at B&A trans- but he looked up 
the tranny and it was of no use or cross-ref.  ZF part# he's did recognize. 
Side note on tranny's my brother's first A8 swap he went factory exchange at 
$6 or 7K. For the more complex trannies and to guarantee success I agree 
with this approach.  As good as B&A is for example, there are some things 
that are out of the scope of a small tranny shop.

PS And I as type this, Brian just rode up on his Colnago (bike)!


-----Original Message----- 
From: Les Dane
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:12 AM
To: 'Brandon Hoag' ; 'kyle leatherwood'
Cc: v8 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V8] to the junk yard

My '90 V8 (bought in 07) is still a great driving car, and the things that 
have required repair have been no greater than for any other car I have 
owned, but I've spent a lot of money on things that were not the car's 
fault.  My kids figured that all-wheel-drive is 4-wheel-drive and spent a 
lot of time with it up non-existent mountain roads, and one son damaged 
things underneath and on the right side while cornering on black ice.  So I 
put in new sub-frame and headlight and am missing some trim.  I have done 
the timing belt and heater core (which is the reason I have no headliner), 
and new UFO brakes.  The cruise never worked, and the tach is intermittent. 
It's still my high-mileage daily driver.

Parts are very expensive for me as I live on the far west coast of Canada, 
so I deal with exchange, duty and shipping costs.  I now have a cracked 
windshield and my cost to repair might be $1000 (I can get a windshield from 
RockAuto which may save me $100 and maybe I can find a less expensive body 
guy).  I offered to buy the other V8 in town but the owner chose to have it 
crushed instead.  I would have really liked it for a parts car (or even 
drive it and use mine for parts). Anyway I'm still on the road and so long 
is it runs and drives the way it does, I plan to keep it.  (I'm in my 70s 
and am used to cars that don't have all the bells and whistles so long as 
the mechanicals are in good shape).

(Les:)
P.S. I'm not getting heat from my 2-year-old heater core and am losing some 
coolant (but not at the heater).  Does anyone have any advice on this?

-----Original Message-----
From: V8 [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Hoag
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:58 PM
To: kyle leatherwood
Cc: v8 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V8] to the junk yard

I've been on the V8 list for a few years now. Since 2007 or 2007, I
believe, when I first got my '87 5000SQ. In February of this year, I bought
what I've been looking for since just after that time: a V8. A 93 with 127K
miles, actually. I probably overpaid for her, considering the work I've
done to her, but I'm OK with that. I see what she can be, and even if I
sink $10K into her, it's much less than a V8 powered luxury car would cost
today with much of the same features. And, quite honestly, I don't think
the V8 is any more unreliable than anything else out there. Also in the
stable is a 2003 Lexus GS300. They're supposed to be the epitome of
reliability, right? Laughable. It's ten years newer and has fewer miles
than the V8, and the list of expenses and repairs is much more. Oxygen
sensors (it has 4 of them), oil leaks, electrical gremlins, and rust. Not
to mention the squeaks and rattles of the interior and how ungodly fat and
slow it is (in their defense, the GS was supposed to be V8 only when it
came out...but they stuck the I6 into it to bring the cost down).

The V8 has had quite a few things replaced on it as well, but nothing out
of the ordinary for a 20+ year old car. And I was able to do everything
myself, using OEM parts. It still has a transmission leak that popped up
while it sat in my driveway that it's definitely going to the dealer for,
but I'm OK with that. I can afford to get things done properly so I don't
end up doing them 2x over. Besides the tranny leak and the associated smoke
show that occurs when I drive because of it, she sounds and drives
BEAUTIFULLY. Everything (except cruise) works. Everything that came with
the car when it was new is still with it. She has been cared for up until
now, so why stop just because she's not brand new? I understand not
everyone can do this, but I'm going to do my best to keep her on the road
and proud like the very day she drove out of Carousel Audi for the first
time.

Cheers!

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:33 PM, kyle leatherwood <
kyle_leatherwood at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I must say that I must agree with this statement..  Nicely written and
> spot on as to the  v8 market..
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 25, 2014, at 2:51 PM, CavalloGT <cavallogt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Scott J,
> >
> > That was a well stated, clear and cogent description of the current
> state of V8 affairs: a shame for such a nice, but definitely "needy"
> vehicle. (Maybe some day demand will change in a positive direction but I
> won't hold my breath.)
> >
> > What distinguishes you, is that you were able to make your point
> respectfully, and without arrogance.
> >
> > Thank you for being a kind professional.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > ProfessorGT
> > (Sent from my iPhone4)
> >
> >> On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll jump in as a different Scott.  Right now v8 are likely worth more
> as parts than whole.  Here's the math...  Take the tail lights off:  150$
> to the 4kq/5kq lads.  Take the rear torsen off:  350-400 to the Scar lads.
> Take the front uprights out:  $100 to the C4 chassis guys wanting to do 
> HP2
> brake upgrades:  The rest goes to the yard for another 250-300.
> >>
> >> There's almost a grand there that most owners can't get a call on for a
> *running* 3.6 car.
> >>
> >> After owning a shop for many years, I too find v8 owners some of the
> most frugal (does that help) car owners on the planet...  Audi owners in
> general a close second.
> >>
> >> Most v8 have fallen to the wrecking yard.  Frugality only
> unintentionally accelerates the path.
> >>
> >> Find some less bitter coffee?  Your point is lost in the reality of
> what has happened to the v8 'market'.  There isn't one.
> >>
> >> Scott J
> >> 91 v8 getting close to making the call
> >> 92 v8 losing flavor quickly
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Original Message ----
> >> From: CavalloGT <cavallogt at gmail.com>
> >> To: scotty <scotty at advancedautomotion.com>; v8 <v8 at audifans.com>
> >> Cc: v8 <v8 at audifans.com>
> >> Sent: Wed, Sep 24, 2014 9:35 am
> >> Subject: Re: [V8] to the junk yard
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >> In response to your latest flatulence:
> >>
> >> You mean you'd "just as soon" save them for your V8, ............
> >>
> >> You can't assume you'll save them because if you haven't sold them
> already, by
> >> default you ARE saving them. LOL!
> >>
> >> Yes, some folks are just plain cheap, but some of us V8 owners may be
> "cheap",
> >> not out of choice, but out of financial circumstance.  Either way, I
> don't judge
> >> because I've learned that you never know what motivates someone else
> till you
> >> walk a mile in his shoes.
> >>
> >> Are some folks offensive? Sure, but that's their problem, not everyone
> else's,
> >> unless they allow themselves to be annoyed by such folks.
> >>
> >> If you have bags of money and can spend it without being "cheap", GOD
> Bless you!
> >>
> >> I've also found however that many times folks who have lots of money
> are the
> >> cheapest misers out there! They bitch about prices when they are
> buying, but
> >> when the shoe is on the other foot and they're selling, they call
> everyone else
> >> cheap when they can't get there inflated price.
> >>
> >> Regardless, it's all good because market demand ultimately decides what
> things
> >> are worth, or more appropriately stated, what they will sell for,
> regardless of
> >> what we may think they're worth.
> >>
> >> Ironically, if it weren't for us "cheapskates" most of the V8s that are
> still on
> >> the road would have already fallen prey to the "wrecking yard". I know
> as far as
> >> my situation goes, I do not want to part with my 5-speed, but I cannot
> afford to
> >> keep it at this juncture in my life.
> >>
> >> I'm hanging on to the 92 V8 I have as one of our brethren worked some
> of his
> >> magic on the car previously, and my desire is to use it to create a 91
> Avant 4.2
> >> Automatic.
> >>
> >> It's not about what anyone else may think about doing that, but it's
> about what
> >> I would like as an individual, regardless of what anyone else thinks
> about it.
> >> I've always been partial to wagons and creating that particular animal
> with some
> >> additional power from either turbos, a supercharger, or both, is a long
> term
> >> goal I have on my list of automotive creations. Unfortunately, my
> 5-speed must
> >> be sold first.
> >>
> >> I don't presume to be some sort of Audi authority, but I do have quite
> an
> >> extensive automotive service background. In fact I have in the past, 
> >> and
> >> continue today to serve as an expert witness in automotive litigation
> cases.
> >> Regardless, I don't try to impress folks, especially at the expense of
> others.
> >>
> >> So before throwing stones, I'd just as soon, assume, or at least hope
> anyway,
> >> that you are better with a wrench than a pen.
> >>
> >> Had you not, a propensity to pontificate regarding your opinions of
> others, you
> >> could not fly the friendly skies. We don't need to assume anything.
> It's obvious
> >> that all that warmth you spew is self serving: it allows the lift
> needed for you
> >> to go cruising in your hot air balloon. Thankfully the cool breezes of
> reality
> >> will prevail.
> >>
> >> ;>)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 3:10 PM, "Scott DeWitt" <
> scotty at advancedautomotion.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I find it humerous that people try to cheapen expensive and hard to
> find
> >>> parts by adding adjective such as rusting-away and wrecking yard.
> >>>
> >>> I too have a set of Euros and won't even mention the price as V8 
> >>> owners
> >>> are some of the cheapest of all Audi owners out there. I'd just assume
> >>> save them for my V8 if I ever decide to resurrect it.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
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