[Vwdiesel] about to re-ring, scuff question

[Nate Wall]

<<<Put the rings in DRY!  No oil on
the rings or groves other than what they scrape off.>>

Why is this? For proper break-in? The Total Seal instructions say this too. I
really oiled the rings, pistots, and bores when I re-ringed.

--Nate

LBaird119 at aol.com wrote:

> > I was thinking of using an oil-soaked Scotch-Brite pad
> >  to rough up the walls a bit.  With care, I could avoid having any crap
> >  drip into the engine... I hope.  What do you think?
>
>   I think you're nuts!  ;-)
>   The proper "solvent" you're supposed to use after honing is soap and
> water.  Theoretically petroleum based solvents will allow the small metal
> bits to work further into the pores rather than wash them out.  They come
> out later causing wear.  I've had good luck with this method.
>   The nice thing about a Rabbit/Jetta re-ring is you don't have to pull the
> engine.  :)  You just pull the head, pan and pistons.  You really need to
> scrape all the carbon out of the ring groves or you could end up breaking
> the rings when trying to install the pistons.  I've found that a grove
> scraper
> is well worth having.  It sure saves slicing your thumb and finger up on the
> sharp edge of an old ring while scraping.
>   I use a 3 stone hone.  It lets you round out and straighten out the walls
> a little if need be.  Also shows you how bad the cylinder is or isn't.  It's
> just a cheapie, so to speak from Sears or the local auto parts store.  It's
> the right grit too.  A scotch brite wouldn't even get close.
>   I use as little oil as I can and place a couple of these blue shop paper
> towels at the bottom of the cylinder I'm honing.  Remember, you only
> have to hone as far as the rings go.  Not all the way to the bottom. :)
>   When done honing, wipe down the cylinder walls.  When done with
> all of them get the soapy water and NOW it's time for the scotch brite!
> Scrub it all clean, rinse well.  Tada, no solvents to worry about, it's clean
> and you rinse any residual oil and metal away.  :)  If it's not going right
> back together, lightly wipe some oil on the cylinder walls and when
> assembling you can oil the skirts.  Put the rings in DRY!  No oil on
> the rings or groves other than what they scrape off.
>      Loren
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