[Vwdiesel] Re: 1.9 vs 1.6 T

[Nate Wall]

I was tempted to replace the worn out 1.6 TD in mine w/ a brand spank'in new 1.9
TD, but at $3,200+, that seemed a bit much.  Then don't forget the new clutch
pack, belts, hoses, etc, things that could add another $200 - $500.

I did well to replace the beat 1.6 TD with another (rebuilt) TD, new (rebuilt PP)
clutch pack, rebuilt TD injectors, belts, water pump, T-belt tensioner, new
injection pump shaft seal. My turbo had about 45,000 miles on a rebulit
cartridge, so I used it. Hoses looked fine, and I keep an eye on them. All for
about $1,200, I guess. That's about a third of going the new 1.9 TD route. For a
20 year old car, that's a good option. If I put a new 1.9 TD in it and wrecked
(or got it hit) the car, I'd take a real loss.

--Nate

<<< They seem
to make less mileage than the 1.6 by roughly 7mpg.>>>

As miserly as I am, the above would bother me, in addition

LBaird119 at aol.com wrote:

> > Hello to the list- I have a '91 ECO with about 200K it may need rings and
> > valves soon. My question is: I could buy a rebuilt 1.6 turbo motor and drop
> > it in with the current turbo set-up, or could buy one of the 1.9 NA and put
> > that in in it's place. Anybody got any suggestions as to which would be
> more
> > economical or have more power? I lean toward simplicity (1.9 NA) but also
> > like the turbo thingy as well, so....
> >
>   My first reservation is in buying a "rebuilt" engine.  The tolerances on
> these
> engines are so tight that most rebuilders are afraid to build them to factory
> specs and use larger clearances.  This would shorten the longevity.  :(
>   Usually they want to bore the cylinders to over half of the useable
> clearance "life."  They may not replace the intermediate shaft bearings.
> I'm picky I guess.  :)
>   I was able to rebuild a 1.6 TD for about half or less of the cost of a 1.9
> including TS rings, Raceware, etc.  Monetarily it wasn't worth the difference
> in price but as power hungry as Dad seems to be getting it might have
> been better to use the 1.9 TD!  ;-)
>   Your Ecco stuff will bolt to another 1.6 or even a 1.5, TD or NA.  I think
> the exhaust side bolts up on a 1.9 but not the intake as I recall, unless you
> use a 1.6 head arrangement.
>   As said, if I was going to go 1.9, go all out and do 1.9 TD.  :)  They seem
> to make less mileage than the 1.6 by roughly 7mpg.
>      Loren
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