[Vwdiesel] Crappy fuel? (was Touareg)

[Mary Beth and Chris Geiser]

So are they having these same problems with the TDI's in Europe and
elsewhere, or do they not put EGR's on vehicle's outside of the US?  Is
this a "design flaw" that VW should take care of?
I don't have a TDI, but I've been reading enough people who have this
problem...
Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: vwdiesel-admin at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin at vwfans.com] On
Behalf Of TexasTDI
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:30 PM
To: Mary Beth and Chris Geiser
Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Crappy fuel? (was Touareg)

Our higher sulphur diesel won't allow us to use the same catalytic
converters and particulate traps that Europe does.  But the main reason
the
EGR and intake get clogged up is because the EGR lets in sooty exhaust
into
the intake and the CCV lets in oily vapors from the motor into the
intake.
Add these two together and you get a clogged intake and EGR.

Chris Thornton
1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles
2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 77k miles
Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
http://www.amsoil.com
http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Beth and Chris Geiser" <geiser at execpc.com>
To: <LBaird119 at aol.com>; <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Crappy fuel? (was Touareg)


> Isn't the high sulfur content in US fuels being blamed for a lot of
the
> intake / intercooler "crudding up" that's occurring in the TDI's?
Maybe
> all the emphasis on EGR necessitates low sulfur fuel...  to me that's
a
> big waste of effort.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-admin at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin at vwfans.com] On
> Behalf Of LBaird119 at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:02 PM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Crappy fuel? (was Touareg)
>
> In a message dated 2/22/2003 2:51:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> matt_lisa at sprynet.com writes:
>
> > because it requires clean diesel and we don't have any. Same reason
> >  > Mercedes,
> >  > Audi, Toyota, etc don't import any of there diesels to the US
> anymore.
> >  > VW only
> >  > imports it's 1.9TDI which they detuned just for the US market to
> run
> >  > on crappy fuel.
>
>   I keep seeing this argument over and over and I don't quite
understand
> why, especially in this group.  The big difference is in the sulfur
> content
> then cetane.  Neither of these, especially the sulfur will keep the
> engine
> from running well.  Poor cetane ratings will give less power,
> performance
> and economy than a good fuel but unless it's absolute crap then the
> engine will still run a good long time.  The sulfur being the main
> argument
> that's generally heard has to do with emissions rather than
drivability.
> You
> can't use any of the fancy CAT's with sulfur content.  I believe these
> are
> mostly to combat NOx.
>   If I'm all wet on this I'd like to actually know, but part of what
> makes a
> diesel great is that it will run on quite a variety of fuels.  To call
> the US
> fuel garbage and non-digestible to the new diesels seems to be quite
> the overstatement to me and seems to be the result of what is
broadcast
> by the "greenies" that don't like diesels.
>   Am I way off???
>      Loren
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