Fw: [Vwdiesel] Re: amsoil and oil-getting OT

Nate Wall natewall1 at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 23 09:30:03 EDT 2003


Talk about anal (retentive), one day I removed the oil
pan (for rod bearings) and discovered about 3/4 quarts
remain in the pan when drained on level ground. Since
then, I drain the oil and then jack up the front w/
the floor jack and get at least half a quart more out.
Then I put the plug back in.

--Nate


--- Gerry Wolfe <gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I think most of us are singing the same hymn, or at
> least are singing from
> the same hymn book.
>
> It costs me about $100Cdn/year to do 4-month changes
> with Rotella 15w40 dino
> in warm weather and Rotella 0w40 synth in cold, with
> Mann filters.  I could
> prob'ly  cut these costs in half, but won't.  It's
> not a great expense, so
> I'll continue playing overkill.
>
> BTW, if/when I sell my baby, next owner will prob'ly
> be more inclined to pay
> a premium seeing documentation that I was anal and
> obsessive about
> maintenance...
>
> :o)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "greg rich" <greg4vwparts at hotmail.com>
> To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:33
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: amsoil and oil-getting OT
>
>
> > A couple of things, (I am not an Amsoil dealer,
> but do use their product
> in
> > my TDI due to lack of oils here for it)
> >
> > Audi cars go 10000+ miles between oil changes,
> including the 1.8 turbo.
> Some
> > intervals they don't even change the filter, just
> oil! This is their own
> > service shedule that is free for the first 50k
> miles. Yes, they use
> > synthetic Castrol 5W50. Clearly you can go alot
> longer on todays
> > oils/engines then people once thought. Same with
> the TDI, 10k intervals
> with
> > EGR!
> >
> > Amsoil stresses using their own filters (oil and
> air) for extended drain
> > periods, using the bypass filter you could extend
> as long as the analysis
> is
> > okay, some people are going lifetime (300k miles+)
> with engine oil
> (changing
> > filters though)
> >
> > Amsoil does not make a filter for VW diesels,
> Hastings does which is not
> > recommended for extended drain intervals (only SDF
> filters apply), infact
> I
> > am not sure they make any diesel oil filters (for
> cars that is).
> >
> > Everything that I have read at the tdiclub seems
> to support the fact that
> > oil rarely breaks down, the by products that build
> up are the reason for
> > changes. I have run winter beaters that would
> never see another owner
> > without oil changes for long periods of time, like
> 30k miles winter
> driving
> > on regular oil, no problems (gas VWs), it would
> seem the industry is
> taking
> > us for granted with oil changes. I would not
> recommend this but I have
> done
> > it and never burned out an engine or caused any
> damage (took engines apart
> > when finished with car)
> > If you change your oil every 3-5k miles, your
> engine will clearly outlast
> > the rest of the car and will probably die from
> some other cause, like
> rust,
> > a failed timing belt, overheating, oil starvation,
> failed emmissions, not
> > related to oil changes but lack of maintenace or
> abusive driving. There is
> > no demand for engines around here for cars over a
> certain age, the body
> > rusts out before the engine dies!
> > Most people could save a bundle on oil changes and
> invest it in
> rustproofing
> > and car washes so the rest of the car lasts as
> long as the engine!
> > Enough babbling
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > >From: vwdiesel-request at vwfans.com
> > >Reply-To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > >To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > >Subject: vwdiesel digest, Vol 1 #683 - 4 msgs
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:00:53 -0400
> > >
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> > >
> > >    1. Re: Amsoil (LBaird119 at aol.com)
> > >    2. Re: Amsoil (TexasTDI)
> > >    3. Fw: [Vwdiesel] Amsoil (Gerry Wolfe)
> > >    4. Amsoil (TexasTDI)
> > >
> > >--__--__--
> > >
> > >Message: 1
> > >From: LBaird119 at aol.com
> > >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:17:43 EDT
> > >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Amsoil
> > >To: vwdiesel at audifans.com
> > >
> > >--
> > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >Amsoil does make a filter for the VW IDI.  Part
> number LF517.  But I
> > >honestly don't trust aftermarket filters.  I only
> use OEM filters.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Generally when Amsoil recommendes the long
> interval for oil change
> they
> > >recommend using their bypass filter.  They don't
> (or didn't anyway)
> > >recommend
> > >
> > >the really long intervals without it.
> > >      Loren
> > >
> > >--__--__--
> > >
> > >Message: 2
> > >From: "TexasTDI" <TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <LBaird119 at aol.com>
> > >Cc: <vwdiesel at audifans.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Amsoil
> > >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:50:29 -0600
> > >
> > >In a gasoline powered vehicle (no turbo) Amsoil
> recommends 1 year or 25k
> > >miles as long as you use their oil filter,
> changing the oil filter at 6
> > >months / 12,500 miles.  No oil-bypass system
> necessary.
> > >
> > >Gasoline powered vehicles (with a turbo) can go 6
> months or "up to 3
> times
> > >as long as factory recommendations".  For
> example, the VW 1.8T is every
> > >5000
> > >miles.  By using Amsoil and an Amsoil filter you
> could extend it to 15k
> > >miles.  No oil-bypass system necessary.
> > >
> > >Diesel powered vehicles (turbo and non-turbo) are
> 6 months or "twice the
> > >factory recommendation".  But Amsoil also
> recommends oil analysis just to
> > >make sure these extended intervals are safe in
> your situation.
> > >
> > >The oil by-pass system is a separate issue that
> can extend drain
> intervals
> > >even longer.  For example, there are people out
> there that routinely go
> 50k
> > >miles between oil changes in their diesel
> vehicles thanks to the
>
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