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Thu Nov 20 12:02:46 EST 2003


governor w/ one for automotive use. I think its the
flyweights and a spring are involved and they come in
sets for various applications from Bosch. Your local
Bosch diesel injection shop is your best advice.

--Nate
--- Simon Rook <ea82t at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Nate,
> Is it possible that just adjusting the governor
> speed
> will sort it, or is the pump totally different? Its
> only a single external adjustment so shouldn't need
> rocket science to 'have a go'...
>
> Simon
>
>  --- Nate Wall <natewall1 at yahoo.com> wrote: > The VW
> industrial engines use an injection pump with
> > a
> > governer in them that suites the engine for
> constant
> > loads/stationary operation. Your best bet is to
> > replace the injection pump w/ an automotive one.
> > Perhaps $200 or so can get you the correct pump.
> Try
> > e-Bay. I see lots of them there. The engine should
> > be
> > the same in all other aspects.
> >
> > --Nate
> > --- Michael Snow <mwsnow at cox.net> wrote:
> > > With some timely assistance from several people,
> > the
> > > new engine runs.
> > > 0.90mm is right on for the pump timing.  Thanks
> to
> > > Mark Shepherd, Robert
> > > Keezer and Sandy Cameron :-)
> > >
> > > I learned some new tricks in the process, which
> > > should be educational
> > > for anyone else who has to do this.
> > >
> > > First thing, the injector pump was so full of
> > > garbage that it could not
> > > pump fuel.  We tried gravity feeding (through an
> > > inline fuel filter)
> > > directly into the intake port on the pump.  I'm
> > used
> > > to having a large
> > > volume of fuel coming from the vent port on top
> of
> > > the pump and
> > > returning to the fuel tank.  There was nothing
> but
> > a
> > > trickle.  The
> > > engine would run for 5-10 seconds, then die.
> The
> > > filter screen on the
> > > banjo bolt for the vent had big chunks of brown
> > > stuff on the *inside*.
> > > I thought for sure that the pump was defective,
> > > figuring the vane pump
> > > inside could not create enough vacuum to draw
> fuel
> > > from the tank.  The
> > > only alternative seemed to be to admit defeat,
> > > remove the pump, repair
> > > or replace the pump, at a cost of at least
> > $400-500.
> > >  Having nothing to
> > > lose, we tried running a can of LubroMoly Diesel
> > > Purge through the pump
> > > instead of diesel fuel.  We used one of the
> banjo
> > > bolts for the intake
> > > side on the vent instead of the normal one with
> > the
> > > screen filter.  We
> > > used clear aquarium tubing to help the
> diagnostic
> > > process.  You would
> > > not believe the stuff that came out of the
> > injector
> > > pump!  Diesel Purge
> > > is clear, but the outflow from the pump was dark
> > > brown with huge chunks
> > > of sediment.  I assume that it was the residue
> of
> > > whatever fuel was used
> > > to test run the engine at the factory years ago.
> > > After 15-20 seconds of
> > > running on straight Diesel Purge, something
> broke
> > > loose in the pump and
> > > it started to work correctly.  The trickle
> coming
> > > from the vent turned
> > > into a strong stream of dark brown *stuff*
> coming
> > > out of the vent.  Trip
> > > to the Bosch shop avoided :-)  Diesel Purge is
> now
> > > on my list of
> > > must-have stuff in the garage.  I view most of
> it
> > as
> > > snake oil.  This is
> > > the *real thing*.
> > >
> > > We ran the engine at about 1800 RPM for 20
> minutes
> > > or so to begin the
> > > break-in process, then switched back to regular
> > > diesel.  I always use
> > > Stanadyne Performance Formula, so that's in
> there
> > > too.  Time for a test
> > > drive.  We head out of the driveway for a short
> > tour
> > > of the
> > > neighborhood, and meet utter disappointment
> > head-on.
> > >  A check of the
> > > part numbers confirms that the engine I
> purchased
> > is
> > > not a 1Y, as
> > > advertised, but a ADG industrial engine with an
> > > injector pump that is
> > > governed to around 3000 RPM.  No external
> > adustments
> > > have any effect on
> > > the governed speed.  I now have a giant 30 MPH
> > "tool
> > > shed" in the
> > > driveway that looks a lot like a Westfalia
> camper.
> > > Hopefully, the
> > > company that sold me the engine has a solution.
> > >
> > > A strong warning to anyone buying new VW diesel
> > > engines.  Make sure you
> > > know what you are getting, because the vendor
> may
> > > *not*.  I should have
> > > looked up the part numbers in ETKA and brought
> the
> > > info with me when I
> > > went to make the purchase.  Now I am faced with
> > > unanticipated delay and
> > > possibly a large additional expense that I did
> not
> > > budget for.
> > >
> > > For those of you who are interested, I have
> > already
> > > sent an e-mail to
> > > the vendor asking how to proceed.
> > >
> > > Mike Snow
> > > 1982 Westfalia tool shed
> > >
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