[Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???

Fernando Fiore ecodiesel1 at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 10 22:29:35 EST 2004


Once again, I tell the list what I have used forever, and it does not have 
any friction modifiers.  It is available anywhere and it is cheap.  Marvel 
Mystery Oil.  It has the consistency and color of ATF.  My Audi's pump 
stopped leaking with a dose of it.  Honestly So! (the slogan)



Fernando Fiore, "Nando"

84 VW Rabbit Diesel "GTI"
1/4= 21.249 @ 60.95mph

81 Audi 5000S Diesel
1/4= N/A





>From: "Doyt W. Echelberger" <Doyt at NWOnline.Net>
>To: "Gerry Wolfe" <gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca>
>CC: Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:45:26 -0500
>
>Hello Gerry.....I admit to being one of the ATF users, but I don't 
>recommend it, and I don't use it regularly....only about once a year, for a 
>specific reason: Several times in the past 3 years my turbodiesel injector 
>pump displayed a leak that dribbled fuel out of the little rubber nipple 
>that empties the turbo boost enrichment module of the pump (upper right top 
>of pump, standing ibn front of bumper facing the engine.)
>
>A quart of ATF in the fuel tank caused the gaskets/O-rings/whatever in the 
>pump to swell up enough that the leak totally stopped. The fix lasted about 
>a year, and then I had to do it again. So, it is a one-tank trip with 
>whatever unfavorable additives that arrive with the ATF.
>
>My injector pump still works after several such fixes, and I haven't had to 
>have it rebuilt yet, which is the only other way I know of to stop a leak.  
>I figured that the worst case would be that the ATF wouldn't work and I 
>would being paying 300-400 for a rebuild anyhow, so why not try it?
>
>I'm sure the fix will only last about a year on my car, and I will have to 
>do it again, and I'm not sure how many times the pump will respond in a 
>positive fashion to the swelling agent, or how long it will take for the 
>friction additives to cause some damage, so the test continues.
>
>I will report the results annually.
>
>I do admit to using the 2-stroke oil now and then, but more as an 
>experimental thing, just to see if I can detect any benefits.  I have been 
>using "PowerServices  DieselKleen + cetane boost" in almost every tank this 
>winter. Seems to make the engine start and run a little smoother, or allows 
>me to imagine such a result. Who knows? I should probably get a TDI and put 
>my poor old Jetta out to pasture. Gad, what an incredible car that has 
>been. It deserves an honorable retirement.
>
>Doyt Echelberger
>Ohio   USA    85 Jetta TD
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>At 10:51 AM 2/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>I'm seeing people recommending use of ATF as an additive to diesel fuel... 
>>prob'ly as a "good thing" for the pump and/or injectors.
>>
>>My understanding is that ATF contains additive(s) to increase friction, 
>>prob'ly for the torque convertor or whatever.  Wouldn't this defeat the 
>>purpose?
>>
>>What about using 2-stroke oil mixed with Stanadyne, equal ratios.  Seems 
>>to me the 2-stroke oil would be a better choice.  Ashless, designed as a 
>>lubricant, yadda yadda.
>>
>>Just my $0.02Cdn...
>>G.
>
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